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Re: Speaker cable....which one would you get?
bridgman #163242 03/29/07 08:01 PM
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What a great post!

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There seem to be two common explanations for the "equal length speaker wires" idea. The first dates back to vacuum tube amplifiers with output transformers and higher output impedences, where (for some reason) the impedence of the speaker cable made a greater difference than it did today. I never understood that one.

The other reason was to sell more speaker wire. I understand that one

The cheap Home Depot (etc..) speaker wire with the clear insulation has had a few reports of corrosion, but even that seems to be caused by the insulation rather than the copper. My favorite speaker wire is the jacketed stuff sold by Home Depot -- it's cheap, in-wall rated, easy to strip, and looks good on the floor if a bit "industrial".

The Axiom cable is felt to be very high quality, but the quality shows in relatively subtle ways -- the fine strands make the wire bend more easily (which makes hookup and troubleshooting easier), the insulation is tough but strips easily, it looks good etc...

Just make sure you know the reasons for buying better speaker cable and the right choice for you should become more clear. You can't really go wrong, although I tend to stay away from the clear HD 12 gauge just because it's a bit of a pain to work with and won't lie flat.





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Re: Speaker cable....which one would you get?
ereed #163243 03/30/07 12:51 AM
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I am glad this came up, pulling the trigger tonight on a m80 setup and am now thinking about the details i.e. the cables.

I already read about high end cables being snake oil, so I am ready to do a bulk wire purchase.

Someone mentioned Home Depot, I just wanted to throw one more out there I am thinking about...Any advantages on using cable from monoprice.com? I found bulk cable here

I noticed they had gotten a best of 2006 award from secrets of home theater site.

Re: Speaker cable....which one would you get?
bhull #163244 03/30/07 12:56 AM
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BlueJeansCable is my pick. Great cables, great price, great customer service.


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Re: Speaker cable....which one would you get?
bridgman #163245 03/30/07 03:21 AM
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I like how the Axiom is very flexible since it needs to bend somewhat and have 2 pairs of wires fit inside the little molding I have. I don't know much about their wires but I hope its better quality than monster cable stuff. I'll post some pics tonight.

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ereed #163246 03/30/07 03:29 AM
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Monster=quality=snakeoil

If you want to pay for a name go for it.


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SirQuack #163247 03/30/07 04:05 AM
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Is paying for axiom wire a brand name? hehe Just messing. Ok, just uploaded the pics on photobucket. This is the molding with temporary wire. Pic

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ereed #163248 03/30/07 04:17 AM
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Here are couple more pics of the system so far. Forget my horrible painting (brush strokes) and focus on the equipment and speakers. How is it so far?
Pic1
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Yeah Eric, you're right about the painting, but the equipment is looking good and the only point about placement that comes to mind is that the QSs might be spread even a little more(pic 3).


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bridgman #163250 03/30/07 11:23 AM
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Well, if you wanted to be ABSOLUTELY technically correct, you would calculate the group propagation velocities in the cable.

BOTTOM LINE: at audio frequencies, for that length of cable run, YOU WOULD NEVER HEAR THE DIFFERENCE.

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thyname #163251 03/30/07 01:25 PM
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BlueJeansCable is my pick. Great cables, great price, great customer service.




I agree, the Belden cable they offer is awsome. Only downside is that the strands are very thick, so they don't "lay" nicely on the floor without some manipulating.


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