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Re: Preorder M3ti
Nachosgrande #163618 04/10/07 02:05 AM
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You can get a drill bit that will go through brick and then seal the hole with a good grade of caulk. That is how I plan on running the wires.


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Re: Preorder M3ti
Nachosgrande #163619 04/10/07 03:39 PM
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with the connection to an amp/receiver inside the house is there an issue with water getting in the binding post/speaker wire?




If you use good installation techniques, this won't be an issue. Take a look at the following page and read the parts about "drip loops". The web page is not specifically about speaker cable, but the laws of physics still apply.

Drip Loop Info


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Krich #163620 04/11/07 05:46 PM
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If you use good installation techniques, this won't be an issue. Take a look at the following page and read the parts about "drip loops". The web page is not specifically about speaker cable, but the laws of physics still apply.

Hey Krich,

Did you by any chance ever work for a Tel Co? I was surprised to see someone mention the proper use of a drip loop. Even proffesional cable and satellite installers don't think of the drip loop because coax is generally too thick to do it cleanly.

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Krich #163621 04/12/07 03:55 PM
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with the connection to an amp/receiver inside the house is there an issue with water getting in the binding post/speaker wire?




If you use good installation techniques, this won't be an issue. Take a look at the following page and read the parts about "drip loops". The web page is not specifically about speaker cable, but the laws of physics still apply.

Drip Loop Info




Thanks! This comes in handy. I think I may wait for the wireless version and decide then.


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Re: Preorder M3ti
Nachosgrande #163622 04/14/07 03:25 PM
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While I have absolutley NO idea what Axiom may be offering in terms of wireless outside speakers, my opinion is that most of us will NOT be happy with wireless speakers!!!!

As I see it, there are 2 MAJOR issues:

1. Enough prime power to run the speakers at the desired volume/ level for the duration of intended use.

2. Garbled transmission from your receiver to the wireless speaker for whatever reason.

It is just too easy for me to run a couple of speaker wires to contend with the potential problems listed above.


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ratpack #163623 04/16/07 03:54 PM
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I have a problem running wires from my basement (where HT presides) to the main floor, where the speakers would be ideally mounted. Can't figure a way to get the wires to the main floor and through the exterior wall without breaking apart walls in the kitchen and bathroom.


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Re: Preorder M3ti
Nachosgrande #163624 04/21/07 01:23 AM
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Maybe it would be worthwhile to "consult" a good electrician??


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Re: Preorder M3ti
ratpack #163625 04/23/07 02:13 PM
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Hi Ratpack and all,

To allay your worries about Axiom's wireless speakers (it's premature to condemn a product before it's even appeared!), I'll address a couple of the issues you mention and how Axiom is solving them.

It's Axiom's judgment that currently there are no well-designed wireless speakers, the problems being gross underpowering and low-tech transmission systems. The goal of our wireless engineering program is to produce an authentically high-fidelity wireless speaker with lots of power and no communication problems within its stated range.

1. Axiom has developed a highly efficient amplifier similar to the those used in the EP500, EP600, and EP400 subwoofers. At loud or very loud levels, the amplifier efficiency reaches 90% to 95%.

The self-contained amplifier in each speaker produces 75 watts. The largest battery that Axiom will offer delivers 24 hours of continuous operation depending on the volume level and in tests has lasted 30 hours.

At full volume, which is really loud (and the sound is very clean), the battery lasted 13 hours.

2. The transmission system runs on the 2.4GHz band and is digital with error correction and talk-back to the transmitter for errors and linking.

The range of the speaker system is of course dependant on the materials in between the transmitter and the receiver but we have reached 150 ft or more through walls.

"Garbled" transmissions do not occur: the system either works perfectly or shuts down.

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Re: Preorder M3ti
alan #163626 04/23/07 04:09 PM
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Any word as to when the wired version will start shipping?




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Stymie #163627 04/23/07 05:41 PM
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Hi Stymie,

No word yet but I'll certainly post when I hear of a definite date.

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Alan Lofft,
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