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Re: Dedicated Theater Speakers
Ken.C #167335 05/04/07 03:45 PM
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He could always get the ep600 and lay it below the screen.




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Re: Dedicated Theater Speakers
Kemet #167336 05/04/07 03:46 PM
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The 600 is smoother than the 500. If music listening was important to you, I’d say go for the 600. But seeing how this is a dedicated HT, the 500 would be OK. But, most movie sound tracks have a lot of music, so that’s your call…..If I were shopping for subs again; I’d opt for two 500’s.

The M60’s should also be just fine for a HT. The 80’s play a little lower, but you’ve got the sub. Again, for music, I’d go for the 80’s. For strictly HT, I’d go with the 60’s.

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michael_d #167337 05/04/07 03:54 PM
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the 500 would be OK.




Just OK!

You'll get by!

It'll do!

It's adequate!

It will crack your foundations!

The 500 is a great HT subwoofer! And musical too! IMHO.

Re: Dedicated Theater Speakers
Kemet #167338 05/04/07 04:55 PM
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Hi Hutzal,

I did think about going with all M22's across the front, or even just with a M22 center. But with the screen and the stage only gives me about 60cm in height to work with.
Just for looks alone, I have decided to go with tower speakers for the front.

Definately, the consensus so far is that the EP500 will be more than adequate. As it is easier to place than the EP600 sizewise, good news for me




Kemet,

Since you are using a projector I would recommend what I have right now, which is an M2 above, and an M2 below the screen wired in parallel. This will create a "phantom" centre channel in the middle of your screen. All dialog will sound like it is coming from the middle of your screen. It sounds awsome to me, and it doesn't look too shabby either!

This pic below I have M3s above and below, I have since switched them for M2s, I can take a pic of the M2s if you want. Thats a 92" screen (16:9, not 2.35:1 ).



The M2s are noticably smaller, I will recommend M2s over M3s even with the tower speakers, the dialog is crisp and clear, moreso than the M3s.


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Re: Dedicated Theater Speakers
Hutzal #167339 05/05/07 03:22 AM
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There is definately something to be said about having matching LCR speakers. I would have the space under the screen to use M22 across. That way the tweeter level would all be the same, but below the screen across the stage.

The M60 and M80 have the 6.5" woofers, if when I listen to sound tracks on the movies will I miss any mid-bass compared to the M22?

From reading, the weakest link would be the VP150 as it compromises for placement ease?

How about M22 as LCR with a EP600 horitizontally positioned at the stage lip?

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So your room is about 12.5 feet wide and I assume the front speakers will be positioned along the width rather than the length. I'm also assuming that when you say you will be 9 feet away from the mains that you mean 9 feet from the drivers.

If you will be sitting 9 feet away, you should probably have the fronts separated by 9 feet for a good image. If you toe them in, the drivers will be about two feet from the side walls. The recommendation is to have them 3 feet away from the sides at least. You might want to pull the fronts further into the room (look at brother Bob's set-up on the Wall of Fame) to reduce re-inforcement from the rear since they will be so close to the sides. You'll need to experiment with this but I am sure you will be able to make it sound right especially if you are planning to treat your wall surfaces.

You're going to have resonances to deal with at 45, 80 and 140 Hz in this smallish room (and multiples thereof). You'd benefit from bass traps and mid-range absorbers or maybe you have some cushy furniture and wall-hangings that will make things better. Let us know how it works out and of course we love to see photos.

Re: Dedicated Theater Speakers
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They don’t have to be identical speakers across the front. The 22’s blend nicely with 80’s. I suspect they would with 60’s as well. Or, M2’s with 60’s would most likely work out OK too.

Here’s my set up….


The 600 is mid wall to the right. I sure wish I would have bought two 500’s. They are much easier to place and two subs is always preferred over one.

Re: Dedicated Theater Speakers
michael_d #167342 05/06/07 12:35 PM
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I plan to put the left and right speaker at about 10 feet apart on the edge of the screen. This is a little close to the side walls, but it is the room I have to work with.

When you have 2 center speakers do you power them off the same amp channel and hook up both the speaker wire to the same center terminal on the amp? Would that make the effective impedance 4Ohms for the M22's?

A pair of M22s is about the same price as the VP150, so should I go with 4 M22s across the front, or would 1 VP150 be better?

I think I will stick with the EP500, and later on add a second if I get that craving

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My room is only 12’ wide. The screen is 8’ wide. So you see that it works out OK in the picture. You would have the similar set up. I went with the 22’s for a center because the VP’s just don’t get the praise that the rest of Axiom’s speakers do. I’m happy with them as a center, but I don’t think I’d be happy using them for mains though. I’d go with towers if you can. And yes, the twin 22’s are both being ran off the center channel amp at 4 ohm.

Re: Dedicated Theater Speakers
Kemet #167344 05/07/07 02:06 PM
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Kemet,

as mdrew stated, the impedance is 4ohms for my M2s as well. I really think having 2 M22s would be overkill for your room size (I think its overkill for mdrew!!!!) However, if this is something you would want to pursue, please let us know how 4 M22s across the front sound!!!


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