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Re: Separate amp for the fronts make a difference?
Spoiler #168611 05/22/07 09:47 PM
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Yea, that's what I thought. And the size of the room was one reason I went with the M60's vs. the M80's. I guess I was thinking what to do with the tax refund. Maybe a pair of the M22's outdoor speakers for the pool area




Not a bad idea!! You'll only notice a difference with separate amps if you like to crank the system often.. I have the 3805 and I hear it start to strain near its limits when running the M80's. Since you've got the 8-ohm M60's you'd notice even less of a difference than I did.




What Joe said is key, that is 'if' you notice a difference in the audio quality when you turn it up to levels you want. If you don't, then you may very well have enough as is, and extra watts might just go unused. If you are hearing distortion then the amp may be overtaxed.

I agree that if you don't need more amp, outdoor speakers (M3s) would make a nice addition.


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Re: Separate amp for the fronts make a difference?
PaulHa #168612 05/23/07 02:39 AM
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A Denon 3805 is a darn good receiver, and M60's aren't a hard load to drive. My initial reaction is that no, a seperate amp won't do much for SQ.

However, there's no substitute for actual experience with your ears on your equipment in your home. If you're curious about the dedicated amp route, I'd strongly suggest you check out the fine amps from Emotiva or Outlaw Audio, any of which come with full 30-day return policy. Buy one (or a pair of monoblocks) and see for yourself. You might be out return shipping, but you will cure your curiosity.


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I have had my M60's, VP150 and and QS8's for two years and am very satisfied. (Sub is SVS) My receiver is a Denon 3805 and DVD/CD player is the Denon 3910. Again, very satisfied with the system. I've been reading where a separate amp for the fronts sometimes would help. Any comments? Everyone says the M60's are easy 8 Ohm speakers to drive. Would I hear a difference with a separte amp for the fronts?





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Re: Separate amp for the fronts make a difference?
PeterChenoweth #168613 05/23/07 02:48 AM
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or amps from Odyssey Audio.


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SirQuack #168614 05/23/07 02:50 AM
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or amps from Odyssey Audio.




Ok, any reputable online seller with a money back guarantee. I like Emotiva & Outlaw, so .


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Re: Separate amp for the fronts make a difference?
SirQuack #168615 05/23/07 02:50 AM
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Randy, did you get your amp yet? I'm looking forward to hearing how it compares.


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Re: Separate amp for the fronts make a difference?
HomeDad #168616 05/23/07 02:56 AM
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It should be here tomorrow I think. Klaus had to leave for Germany earlier than expected on a recent trip and did not get my amp all the way past his QC stages. He called me personally before the plane took off and said he was going to do something special for me when he got back, basically give me some additional options from the higher Extreme mono's.

One thing that people don't understand is that Klaus himself, as well as a few other people build these amps one by one in Klaus's shop in Indianapolis. He has a very high quality control process and does not run into some of the component control problems of products manufactured in China. Your only getting the best available, no substitutes, and everything is checked/tested over and over before it leaves the shop. The 20year warranty is pretty cool as well.

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Re: Separate amp for the fronts make a difference?
SirQuack #168617 05/23/07 02:00 PM
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Good suggestions. Since I will be getting some outside speakers, I'll need another amp anyway. I'll try the amp on the M60's, and if I do not notice much of a difference, I'll have it to drive the outdoor speakers.

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PaulHa #168618 05/31/07 05:42 PM
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I got this reply after inquiring about a 2 channel amp for my rig in comparison to a 5 channel amp. "If you use two different amps for your system, you could get a gain imbalance which would destroy the sound stage, so it would be better to use one amp to run all the speakers that has matched gain stages." I thought I would run this idea through this menagerie just to see what you guys and gals think. Has anyone who uses a 2 channel amp to run your front speakers encountered a soundstage problem?

Re: Separate amp for the fronts make a difference?
littleb #168619 05/31/07 05:43 PM
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Say what huh? I've never heard that one before.


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Re: Separate amp for the fronts make a difference?
Ken.C #168620 05/31/07 05:50 PM
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littleb,

They probably think you are an ignorant consumer. The imbalance that can "destroy your soundstage" can easily be equalized utilizing an SPL meter and setting your levels in your pre/pro.


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