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Re: New Axiom speakers to replace my Energy speake
NOLAGT #171460 07/01/07 03:42 AM
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Are there NO studs in the wall where you would mount the center or just not any that are in the center to mount the speaker. If they are just not in the center you could try cutting a thin sheet of plywood in a rectangle that would span the studs and give you a solid mounting for the center chanel where you need it.




From what I could tell - no - there are no studs above hte alcove where the TV sits... But I think ceiling mounting it will put the speaker pretty close to where I would put it on the wall anyhow.

I'm leaning toward ordering 3 M22 speakers + mounts. How fast is Axiom's shipping? I live in Tucson, AZ.

Re: New Axiom speakers to replace my Energy speake
ajg #171461 07/01/07 05:31 AM
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If you order from the regular stock they should arrive in three business days(if a delay would be okay you could order from the Axiom Outlet and there's a 10% discount). If five or more items are ordered there's a 5% discount.


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Re: New Axiom speakers to replace my Energy speake
JohnK #171462 07/01/07 02:52 PM
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This is a Long weekend in Canada.. so if you were to order today I would think the first day shipping would be available would be Tue's and I believe the courier picks up late afternoon so it wouldn't leave the Toronto Depot until Wed some time for the trip to AZ.. HTH

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Re: New Axiom speakers to replace my Energy speake
SirQuack #171463 07/01/07 05:13 PM
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3 identicle fronts will give you the best match and soundstage



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using three identical vertical speakers across the front would give you the best sound




This is nonsense.

Boys, if you are going to state something as fact, produce the data to prove it.
From a newbie's perspective, anything stated like this propagates the audio myths that fly across the masses never to be resolved.
Three identical speakers, one as centre will NOT unequivocally produce the best sound let alone best soundstage (show me the research on this one).
Best match is more arguable, but since all the driver boxes and drivers are identical, it is STILL incredibly hard to push the idea that a vertical M22 is so vastly different from a VP150 in presenting a centre channel sound such that everyone should be doing it.

ajq,
The VP150 centre channel is by far the best i've heard. It will provide a seamless and very wide soundstage with any of the Axiom mains.
I've had the M22, M60 and M40s in house for comparison AND i've even put the VP150 in a vertical orientation once for sound testing (i have pics). It was far better than other centre channels with the woofer-tweeter-woofer configuration in its wide off-axis (left and right) presentation). The fact it can sit on top of a tv or be placed underneath and angled upward simply by turning it upside down is a huge plus.

The VP150 was designed as a centre channel and although the M22 can function as such, i agree with the advice you got from the Axiom tech. Unless you have the backward seating distance or a more narrow listening area (e.g. not a wide couch or 4 theatre seats abreast, etc.), then the VP150 is more suitable a choice for a centre channel. The M22/M2 idea can be too directional.
Same idea goes for surrounds.
Not everyone has the best room to configure perfect dimensions that will produce a proper stereo effect all the time.

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Re: New Axiom speakers to replace my Energy speake
ajg #171464 07/01/07 10:34 PM
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I played around quite a bit with vertical centers. One/Two and their placement. I didn’t really like the way one sounded. I didn’t like two when they were closer than 16” apart from each other. Two vertical centers 24” apart up to about 48” sounded the best. If you are set on going the V-center route, I’d suggest you go with two M22’s or two M2’s over one. I have heard a 150 and thought that sounded pretty good too.

Re: New Axiom speakers to replace my Energy speake
michael_d #171465 07/01/07 10:38 PM
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I played around quite a bit with vertical centers. One/Two and their placement. I didn’t really like the way one sounded. I didn’t like two when they were closer than 16” apart from each other. Two vertical centers 24” apart up to about 48” sounded the best. If you are set on going the V-center route, I’d suggest you go with two M22’s or two M2’s over one. I have heard a 150 and thought that sounded pretty good too.




I managed to find one stud above the alcove where my TV is, so it would be virtually impossible to mount 2 speakers up there...

I just placed the order for 3 M22's. Hopefully I'll be happy with the results.

Re: New Axiom speakers to replace my Energy speake
ajg #171466 07/01/07 11:37 PM
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And don't forget .. you can still return one of the m22 and grab a vp 100/150 with the 30 day plan if you are not happy with the sound ..


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