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#178088 - 10/08/07 10:00 PM All speakers are the same.
Bigwyrz Offline
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Hi all,

I have been here lurking long time, and now I want to speak. Many times I have seenpost here about how good many kinds of speaker sound.
lets just say all all are the same, it is true when you sort by price. all $600.00 speaker sounds alike but a $5000 speaker will sound better, but same as another $5000 too see? so testing a 500 speaker against a 500 speaker is not nessesary all the same. a human ear cannot hear a too small difference it's best to buy the most money speaker you can and forget testing. I think also,if you can not pay for good speakers you can buy pro kind wires, and other upgrades to help make the sound better. I am making a new system I hve a new cd player and am going to buy a new amp to improve the sound next.

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#178091 - 10/08/07 10:04 PM Re: All speakers are the same. [Re: Bigwyrz]
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#178095 - 10/08/07 10:11 PM Re: All speakers are the same. [Re: Bigwyrz]
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#178101 - 10/08/07 10:35 PM Re: All speakers are the same. [Re: pmbuko]
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Big, you are very wrong. You have more homework to do.
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#178103 - 10/08/07 11:23 PM Re: All speakers are the same. [Re: Mojo]
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Wow,it's been awhile since there's been a post that far off in a while, kind of breaks the monotony.
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#178110 - 10/09/07 06:48 AM Re: All speakers are the same. [Re: Bigwyrz]
EFalardeau Offline
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 Originally Posted By: Bigwyrz
a human ear cannot hear a too small difference

How about a BIG difference?
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#178118 - 10/09/07 08:59 AM Re: All speakers are the same. [Re: EFalardeau]
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I dunno; maybe what the OP meant was that all $600 speakers have about equal SQ and all $5000 speakers have about equal SQ as well, and that using the term "the same" may have been an unfortunate use of the wrong words to get across what may have been an interesting comment.

For instance I'm listening to two sets of headphones, the forward and exciting Alessandro MS2i, and the laid-back and darker Sennheiser HD600, which sell for about the same price and sound a whole lot different from each other but both have about the same level of SQ. They both sound equally as good. The same goodness.

The hole in the theory is that ya still gotta listen to and test different speakers in each price range to determine just which sonic signature you prefer.

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#178123 - 10/09/07 09:24 AM Re: All speakers are the same. [Re: F107plus5]
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There is a bigger hole in the theory than that. If speakers can only be compared against their price, then Axiom speakers are really bad or they should start selling cheap speakers for 10,000$ and suddently become "good". There are a lot of people out there trying to sell you fantasies and illusions, from speakers cables at 43,000$ a pair to special "spray" to help wi-fi connections. So you cannot just look at price tags. Poor engineer will naturally lead to higher prices in the long run (you probably know this for true if you are in or involved with engineering companies); so a company can honestly sell speakers at 5000$ because that is their cost, while another company (whose name I will omit but can be seen in the top-left corner of this page) will achieve the same quality at 1500$ just because of work ethic and management. And let's not forget to remove comparison between direct-sales prices and retail-sales prices.

Anyway, as you hinted, once you eleminate all the frauds and the bad management, engineering, YES, this is a worthwhile debated. Unfortunately, once we removed those elements, the choice will remain between a handfull (may be two) of companies.
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#178140 - 10/09/07 01:01 PM Re: All speakers are the same. [Re: EFalardeau]
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You guys are taking this far too seriously.
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#178156 - 10/09/07 04:57 PM Re: All speakers are the same. [Re: tomtuttle]
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