Re: M22s, VP150, VP100 as centres...oh, and M44s
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Thanks Randy. It's useful for me to know that. I wonder if the opening I have going up the stairs is the killer for me or is it the lack of treatments? I suppose I can try to make a temporary wall for that stair opening and see how the response changes.
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I too get incredible bass from M80. If it were only for music, I don't think I would have even bothered with a sub (but explosions are explosions and deep breathing T-Rex are deep breathing T-Rex).
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And what is the volume of your room, Eric. Does it have any openings to other areas? Any treatments?
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The living room + dining room is about 14x22. The HT is in one portion of it (say 14x12) with my new back surrounds infringing on the dining room (actually touching the dining table--thank god I don't have WAF problems!).
There is a corridor leading to the back rooms, the kitchen and my office on the side so the living room is not truly closed (I could not just shut a door), but at the same time, openings to the rest of the appartment are they equivalent of three opened doors so it is not wide open either.
If a go to my bedroom (the fartest from the M80) and playing some cello-intensive work (like Bach's cello suites for example or one of Schubert's late string quartets), the bass remains stong and clean even at moderate level.
When I first installed the M80, there was actually way too much bass. I then moved them from the wall (in great part because of Alan's recommendations) and it became "better", but still strong. It took me a while to remember how live deep instruments actually sounds and was then stunned by how accurate those little CDs can actually be with the right equipment.
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Thanks. And how tall is your ceiling? It also sounds like you have a lot of furniture, right?
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8.5 feet high. On the furniture side, it is mostly speakers! I just have a coach, coffee table, dining table and chairs. But I do have two irregular areas that makes the room less bright than it could have been. So, I guess there is a lot of small obstacles (table and chair legs), but I doubt the room could be really called "loaded" (altough I am not an expert).
I tried the EP-500 with all 3 "trim" settings, and the only one that sounded good was the FLAT one.
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Tex,
My room at the other end opens into another section or our basement that is just as big as the rec room, and also has stairs over leading upstairs.
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Thanks guys. Randy, did you have good bass out of your 80s even with the Denon acting as your amp?
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My media room is in a shared space with our home daycare, so during the week I use a basic set up with M22 mains, VP100 center and QS8 surrounds. On the weekend, the M60s come out as mains and the M22s become the dual centers with the VP100 disconnected. Here's my set up for the MVP122 and MVP144 options. What's the best way to wire the 3 centers? Should I add the VP100 in parallel with the 2 M22s? My receiver is a Denon AVR3803. [img] [/img] [img] [/img]
I started out with nothing & I've still got most of it left M60 VP160 QS8 EP350 M22 VP100 Algonquins
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Love the entertainment unit. Must be a custom job, right?
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