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What set-up to get?
#183571 11/14/07 09:09 PM
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I would like to put together a decent Set-up. Right now I have a Sony Reciver STR-DE545, after comming across these Axiom Speakers I have given up on the idea of getting Bose. I have 2 senerios in mind. A pair of M80's for my front,QS8 for surround VP100 Center and EP 500 or 60's, QS4, VP100 and EP500. Having a problem deciding.I want to get a good bang for my buck so to speak. Can anyone help me out??


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Re: What set-up to get?
Race #183573 11/14/07 09:14 PM
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I wouldn't try M80s on a Sony receiver--it's unlikely to handle a 4 ohm load adequately. Consider the M60s.


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Re: What set-up to get?
Ken.C #183576 11/14/07 09:27 PM
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I agree with Ken. The 60s would play nicer with your Sony. Can you give us the dimensions of your room (HxWxL), or more accurately, the dimensions of the listening area you wish the speakers to cover (if different from the size of the room)?

The primary difference between the QS4s and QS8s is that the QS8s will play louder thus doing a better job covering a large area (they also extend a little deeper in frequency response, but IMHO, that difference isn't a huge one). The same is true for the VP150 and VP100.

Don't misunderstand. I used QS8s in a QS4-sized room, and loved them. If you want them, and they fit the budget, by all means get them. But, if you're trying to save money, unless your room is a large one, the QS4s would serve very well.


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Re: What set-up to get?
Ken.C #183577 11/14/07 09:28 PM
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Re: What set-up to get?
Hutzal #183579 11/14/07 09:30 PM
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As long as you can get a receiver or amp to support them, yeah. Otherwise, it's going to be a world of hurt.


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Re: What set-up to get?
Ajax #183580 11/14/07 09:31 PM
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Ramp the budget up and get rid of the Sony the extra headroom will be noticeable, I did 4 years ago and I will never go back. It also allowed me to by M80s this year

By all means go for the M60s you won't be disappointed and then you will have the extra money for VP150 and QS8s.

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Ajax #183585 11/14/07 09:43 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Ajax
....snip...The primary difference between the QS4s and QS8s is that the QS8s will play louder thus doing a better job covering a large area (they also extend a little deeper in frequency response, but IMHO, that difference isn't a huge one). The same is true for the VP150 and VP100.


for the sake of discussion what is considered a large room/medium room/small room?

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aham23 #183587 11/14/07 09:45 PM
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according to the axiom home theater wizard:

small sized room: under 1500 cf
medium sized room: 1500-2500 cf
large sized room: over 2500 cf


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Re: What set-up to get?
terzaghi #183590 11/14/07 09:49 PM
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The Sony must go. If you love music, M80s all the way provided you have the room of course.


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Mojo #183593 11/14/07 09:54 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Mojo
The Sony must go.

\:D A liitle bitter aren't we.


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aham23 #183595 11/14/07 09:55 PM
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Honestly, I'm not sure where the dividing lines are myself. I just know that when I hear the dimensions, and calculate the cubic footage, I usually can give a reasonable assessment of what is required.

For example my room is 11.5'W x 18'L x 8'H for a total of 1656 cubic feet. That falls somewhere in the upper small to lower medium sized room. But, my listening area is only 11.5'W x 8'L x 8'H. That's the only space my speakers need to cover. That is definitely small (particularly compared to SirQuack's room \:o ) .

It's a bit different when considering subwoofers. You have to take into account all the space when trying to figure out how much subwoofer you need. It is generally accepted that in order to get pants-flapping bass out of a sub, it needs to "pressurize" the entire area. My room is open to a 10' x 10' dining area, and an approximately 4' x 5' foyer. That brings the total cubic footage to 2616 cubic feet. That's still not a huge space, but it's not small either. Happily my EP500 does the job.

Maybe others who have a more concrete concept of small, medium, and larger spaces will chime in.

EDIT: Whoops! Terzaghi already did. \:\)

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Re: What set-up to get?
Ajax #183612 11/14/07 10:52 PM
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The room is 20'x18'x8 with a small dining area off of that. So if I got the 60's with the QS8 and the VP100 and a EP500 it should be good


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jakewash #183613 11/14/07 10:56 PM
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I mainly want this set-up for movies and for watching sports .. Football,Nascar,Baseball,etc.


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Re: What set-up to get?
Race #183616 11/14/07 11:02 PM
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m80's are the way to go, but as mentioned above, you'll need a different receiver or external amp.


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Re: What set-up to get?
Race #183618 11/14/07 11:04 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Race
The room is 20'x18'x8 with a small dining area off of that. So if I got the 60's with the QS8 and the VP100 and a EP500 it should be good


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I would probably spend a bit more and get the VP150 over the VP100. The good news is that if you're looking to get a whole system, you save 5%, so that would make up the difference. Further, if you were willing to go with factory outlet, you would save another 10% for a total of 15%....


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Re: What set-up to get?
MarkSJohnson #183637 11/15/07 01:24 AM
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I second the VP150, I have both and the 150 likes it louder. The Factory outlet is also the way to go if you don't mind the odd little mark. My M80s have a very minor mark at the bottom left on the 45 deg chamfer and the other I really haven't noticed anything yet, but I have been too busy listening to them rather than looking at them, as it should be\:\)


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