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Re: Looking for black cord
nickbuol #184771 11/20/07 11:21 PM
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Ok that is so simple I feel stupid.

If the masks are cloth is there something like a wooden/metal dowel at the top and bottom of each mask to hold them straight or do they just ride against the screen to keep them flat, or are the masks solid?

I’m guessing you could also make a similar rig for the sides for 1.33:1 material. I watch lots of Anime most of which is 1.33:1.


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Re: Looking for black cord
grunt #184777 11/20/07 11:54 PM
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Nick I've used the camo PowerPro for years and have never seen or heard of the color coming off, in fishing applications that stuff will cut your fingers though.

Also...

I use the 130# 'DACRON TROLLING LINE' (second product down) for our down riggers, it does come in black and I've never seen nor heard of the color rubbing off either. This is strong stuff, earlier in the year we were trolling for grouper on a shallow reef with the down riggers and I was running one of the weights a little low and caught the reef, rather than breaking the Dacron it twisted the down rigger and tore the built-in rod holder out of the boat. I believe it would be perfect for your application.

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RickF #184780 11/21/07 12:02 AM
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I'm guessing you're not going to use that stuff again for fishing. I think I'd rather lose the fish than the rod and rod holder...


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Ken.C #184797 11/21/07 01:39 AM
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Ken luckily I didn't lose anything, the gimble mounted down rigger was pointed at a 90* angle from the back/front of the boat, whenever the ball caught the reef it twisted and broke the gimble bar inside the flush mounted rod holder on the boat and spun the rod holder on the boat.

I've learned my lesson regarding the loss of rods on the boat, whenever we are running or trolling I fasten the rod and reels along with the down riggers via cable and quick connects to the boat ... from experience, of course.


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Re: Looking for black cord
grunt #184832 11/21/07 03:02 AM
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 Originally Posted By: grunt
Ok that is so simple I feel stupid.

If the masks are cloth is there something like a wooden/metal dowel at the top and bottom of each mask to hold them straight or do they just ride against the screen to keep them flat, or are the masks solid?

I’m guessing you could also make a similar rig for the sides for 1.33:1 material. I watch lots of Anime most of which is 1.33:1.



I was originally going to try something more "solid" at first before I found the pulley idea. But then, with the way my VP150 is right under the screen, and a lack of height above the screen due to it being under duct work, something more "pliable" was needed.

I have two 10' tubes of 1/2" conduit. The stuff stays rigid enough for this application. I will cut them down to the correct sizes as well. Then I have a piece of black velvet cut to make the two "masks". One end was folded over and sewn to make a place for the metal conduit to go in to. The fabric will be adhered to the conduit to make it a nice secure, and ultra smooth fit. The bottom will have the fabric "hanging" from the conduit, and the top will have a wider strip of fabric with the top secured to the ceiling (to hide the pulleys and for the next reason) with the conduit end hanging down. This again will provide the straightest and smoothest edge where it matters most, along the screen image. I didn't quite depict that difference in the top with my diagram, but basically, the diagram would only need the cord, line, rope, whatever for the top mask to be drawn to the bottom of that mask where the conduit is.

My biggest thing to experiment with is how much "slack" will be in the top mask. I don't want it to start looping down too much.
I may just add something a little more rigid behind the top mask to hold it flat a little, but not all of the way up so that I won't be running into the ceiling with the rigid part. Another option would be to put metal conduit at both the tops and bottoms of both masks, and then just attach to the tops like I DO have in the diagram. Then it is still a flexible mask, but I can pull the top mask from its top, and still have a smooth surface on the bottom. Then I would just add some sort of small hanging "curtain" above the masks and screen to hide the pulley system. Heck, I could even probably just attach the line (rope, string, etc) directly to the top of the top mask without any additional horizontal support. As long as the pulleys were "pulling" it outward, it should stay pretty flat. I would have my daughter (who knows how to sew) put in some "button holes" so that the fabric doesn't tear.

Lots to work out, but it is very doable and should be great when it is done.... Even if it is a "poor man's" solution and not as sophisticated as the powered professional units ($2500 to get one from Carada to match my screen). Then again, my cost for this is currently less than $20 with the fabric, conduit, and pulleys. Now for the line....

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Re: Looking for black cord
nickbuol #184833 11/21/07 03:15 AM
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Glad to hear it, Rick. I live in terror that I'm going to lose one of my father in law's rods/reels whenever I go fishing with him. He likes mentioning how expensive they are...


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Re: Looking for black cord
Ken.C #184838 11/21/07 03:34 AM
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Ken it sounds as though you like offshore fishing as much as I do ... if you ever find yourself in Florida give me a shout, we'll get out and do a little fishing, I promise you'll never hear about how much all that stuff cost. \:\)

Now to get back on topic.

Nick, you really need to get some fishing line to hang your screen, anything less just wouldn't be right. ;\)


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Re: Looking for black cord
RickF #184840 11/21/07 03:37 AM
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Heh... I appreciate the offer Rick. I actually stink at fishing, but it's the name of the game on my wife's family's Baja vacation. They go for the dorado, but the times I've been, we've mostly ended up with rock fish. Can't imagine what fighting a grouper is like!

I've actually earned a reputation in the family for catching weird things. The first time I went, all I caught was a scorpion fish, an eel, something red with big glassy eyes (tasted terrible), one trigger, and the bottom. A whole lot.

Last time I caught a scorpion fish, a needlefish...

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Re: Looking for black cord
Murph #184873 11/21/07 12:22 PM
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Sorry, no luck. Several choices to choose from in black 4, or 6 mm, various braid options too but he only sells by the reel.

I did a quick google for "Black rope" and "Black Shock cord" and found a ton of inexpensive options. Even ebay. Most is a tight braid but there are lots of ways to splice without a knot, depending on the material you go with.


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Re: Looking for black cord
Ken.C #184876 11/21/07 01:05 PM
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 Originally Posted By: kcarlile
something red with big glassy eyes (tasted terrible


Really? Whodathunkit?


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