Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Advice from Axiom Owners m60/80 with Denon 3808

Hi,

I'm considering purchasing either the m60's or m80's to be used with a Denon 3808. Being that the m80's are 4ohm, how do you think the 3808 would handle these speakers? Are they overkill for the AVR and should I just go with the m60's?

Thanks.

You may find many info somewhere in that recent thread.

http://www.axiomaudio.com/boards/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showthreaded&Number=182196

My lowly Denon 1804 drives my M80s extremely well no overloading. Get the 3808 and M80s. Axiom actually recommends Denon, H/K, Yamaha among the ones to drive the M80s. Axiom sells Sherwood Newcastle that also will drive the M80s.

I have the 3808 but my m80's are in route from canada.

Other's on this boards have m80's and 3808. Apparently it drives them with no problems

I have the 3808 but my m80's are in route from canada.

Other's on this boards have m80's and 3808. Apparently it drives them with no problems

I would check jr.com or 6ave.com

call and ask if they have any special prices on the 3808... you might get a heck of a deal, i sure did.

The 3808 will have no issue whatsoever.

Here is a thread where Alan lists receivers that will handle a 4 ohm load:

http://www.axiomaudio.com/boards/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=175935&site_id=1#import

If I read this correctly, proceed with Yamaha with caution.

Thanks for the info. And terzaghi, I did get that deal yesterday, thanks.

I got the 3808 from 6ave.com for $1098 shipped, I supposedly got the receiver on the last day they had it for that price... but who knows. JR.com was selling it at $1299, and that was not a limited time price they said. Either one is significantly belwo the $1599 MSRP

I’ve got about 10 hours of use on the 3808ci and M80’s. So far, so good. It seams to have plenty of headroom at reference levels. I’m still playing / tweaking, but I’m pretty impressed with this receiver. The GUI is wonderful and works perfectly, at any resolution, and does nothing to the video stream to degrade it (that I can tell). As others have said about Denon many times on these boards, and a sad fact that I have come to appreciate, is that Denon manuals “SUCK”. It’s easy to read, but is sure does omit a whole hell of a lot of pertinent information that the user just has to sorta figure out on their own.

I noticed that my manual was full of double negatives. I had to re-write sections of it out to understand what Denon was trying to say .

The part describing the importance of connecting - (negative) to - (negative) and + (negative negative) to + (negative negative) must have been really confusing.

LOL.

How are the highs on the m80 with the 2 titanium tweeters? Does it ever get too harsh? I'll be pairing these with the VP100 (because of it's size). How will the m60/80 match this center?

Also, a question about subs. I notice the EP350 is the only sub listed as not having Balanced Line In and Out. What does this mean and how does it effect the sound?

Thanks.

Harshness will depend on the quality of music recordings you have, as well as listening environment. Both m60s/80's would work fine tone wise with the vp100.

I think most of use unbalanced anyway, so no worries.

RJ, a balanced connection has an inherent ability to cancel out interference impinging on it, but the more common shielded coaxial cable connection has no problem with interference in the vast majority of home environments, so there should be no difference in sound.

The material used for tweeter domes is just one factor in the sound quality. Any tweeter can be made to sound either dull or harsh through the design of the crossover network, regardless of how "soft" it is. Metal tweeters don't have to sound "metallic" and the Axioms don't.

I have some cd's that never sound harsh and some only at high volumes while others I really look forward to the remasters and hope it helps them. The speakers are just accurate and the twin mids and tweeters help bring the upper mid and highs more to the front.