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Re: Connecting Integrated Amp to Sub
manarex #185493 11/25/07 09:27 PM
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I ran an M&K sub in a stereo set up long before it was the thing to do. I used the preouts from a Kenwood preamp, Parasound preamp and from my current Rotel before I bought an Outlaw ICBM for my bass management. I never recall having any issues with doing so.

Is there someone you can borrow a receiver from to test the sub?



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Re: Connecting Integrated Amp to Sub
Wid #185574 11/26/07 06:06 AM
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Manarex you have said your sons setup' sounds not too bad with bad speakers, so the conclusion I come to is the much better M60s now require a much better sub to come up to the same quality and a more powerfull amp would certainly help.

Your friend you mentioned that swears by Polks might consider the big boomy/muddy sound to be better as many people do feel this is the way a sub should sound. I have a boomy muddy sounding Sub and after hearing some much better quality sub, EP600/EP400/HsuSTF1 the Polks/Paradigms and a few others in the stores are not quite in the same league for the same price, IMO. I am now aching to get an EP500 or Hsu.

If you are not happy with that sub I would certainly take it back if you can, no use paying for something you are not happy with, then put that money towards another and try again.


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jakewash #185626 11/26/07 07:53 PM
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Jason: The M60's are very efficient, so I shouldn't need much drive (should I?). If I just play the M60's, they sound marvelous, and they're loud. I think the subs are rated at 300W continuous and 460W dynamic, so I think I might have the same problem with other subs.
I've talked to other guys at work, and most of them say they use their subs for HT only (that seems like quite a waste).
The EP500 was my first choice. Then I saw that Future Shop put the PSW 505 on for $299, so I couldn't resist. Anyways, I think I can bring them, even though they were advertised by Future Shop as only being available over the Net.


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manarex #185630 11/26/07 08:32 PM
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I believe it is only 14 day return policy for FS.

You are correct you should have enough power for the M60s. As it has been suggested on the other Subwoofer thread I think trying to set up the sub calibrated to the same SPL as the M60s at the M60s lowest drop out out point might help, possibly in that 30-50hz range, just to fill in that extreme low end that the M60 can't produce.

I just tried my old D-Box(they make Butt kicker furniture now) sub that goes down into the 25hz range calibrated at 80hz crossover point and it sounded pathetic. I have to drop its calibration point to the M80s lowest output to get it to sound even, still nowhere near what I heard with the EP400 but better.


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jakewash #185639 11/26/07 08:59 PM
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Jason: It seems to me if I do that, I'll very seldom hear bass or very weak bass. My thoughts so far are that subs are for people who are interested in HT (unlike me). I like plain old stereo (and quad when it was the rage in the early 70's), and I don't think a sub can add anything to stereo. That's just my opinion. Pls. tell me I'm wrong, otherwise I'm going to have to lug a 58 lb. box to futureshop.


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manarex #185641 11/26/07 09:13 PM
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You're wrong. ;\)


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Ken.C #185643 11/26/07 09:27 PM
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This statement is false. ;\)


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medic8r #185644 11/26/07 09:33 PM
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If "This statement is wrong", then I'll clap with one hand. Let me know what you hear.


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Polk got back to me, and told me to to send the DSP section of the sub to California for repair.


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manarex #185647 11/26/07 09:38 PM
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Hey hey hey! Sounds like you're not insane, congrats!


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