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Just in case anyone is interested, we were looking at some numbers today, and tan grilles outsell black grilles on maple speakers 9:1. The same ratio is holding true with the new beech finish. We had figured the number would be closer to 50/50 (eh, Curtis?)
Cables should be launched by tomorrow!
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Interesting indeed! Perhaps, people have gotten sick of the oh-so-ordinary black grill???
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Hey!! Even spiffnme thought the tan grill was ugly! Especially with the light finish.
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Amie, will the new speaker grills be available for purchase by themselves, I would be interested in replacing my black ones that came with my M3Ti's.
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I think the home theater is becoming less and less the exclusive domain of the man and falling prey to the decorative wiles of wives everywhere...
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I remember the maple M22's had a very light colored (almost flesh colored) grill. It just looked bad.
BUT...the pair of M60's that Curtis had for awhile I thought looked very nice in maple. Did they have the same grills?
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BTW, everyone, I bounced the M60s off of my wife, and she asked how big they were. When I told her they were 9 inches wide, etc, she said they were TOO SMALL!!!! She says she likes my subwoofer, because it blends into the furniture. The sub is about 2.5 ft high, 14" wide, 8" deep. Therefore, I'm back to the M22s. Sigh.
So Amie, how about those M90s you showed us pictures of? ;-)
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In reply to:
BUT...the pair of M60's that Curtis had for awhile I thought looked very nice in maple. Did they have the same grills?
Nope...Amie sent the dark grills because I didn't like the light colored ones.
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You mean she wants more than 9"? Dayammm.
In all seriousness, though, perhaps you need to pay spiffnme a visit next time you're in LA to see the M60s in person.
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Yeah, or maybe I should stop shooting so high, and actually buy speakers I can afford. ;-)
Your wife isn't reading over your shoulder any more, is she? :-D
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Ken,
What is the finish on your Cambridge sub that got a high WAF? Just curious...
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Matte black. No texture. Go fig. I've always thought it stuck out a lot.
Of course, a projector gets a low WAF with her, as does a horizontal center channel.
I think she'd prefer it if the speakers were in real wood, but I'm not about to sacrifice the Axiom sound and tons of money to get it.
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Sorry for my ignorance - WAF????
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Epic 80/600 + M3's + M3 Algonquins + M2 Computer + EP125 I think I'm developing an addiction.
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Ken, a front projector gets a low WAF (Shawn -- it is Wife Acceptance/Approval Factor), even if it is ceiling-mounted? I believe that an FP usually results in a higher WAF, simply by eliminating a decor-dominating big-box TV -- especially when combined with a retractable (pulldown) screen.
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My maple M22's (and M2is) looked horrible in that "flesh colored" tan. They look so much better in the black grill. To my eyes it just goes better.
I've got some extra grills if someone wants them.
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Yup. She's really practical. We rent right now, and even if we didn't, I think there's just something about it that doesn't appeal. I don't quite understand it either, but whatever. I'm not about to buy a new TV any time soon. (not until they figure out the HDTV standards).
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Hey johnbasham -
We do have the grilles available separately - prices include shipping as usual.
Grilles
Grille cloth color definitely depends on how your room looks. We wouldn't get away with 11 speakers in our home theater setup if we had the black grilles - with the tan they just disappear. But in other rooms, it's high-contrast or bust!
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I should have told ya not to send the grills when i got my speakers. coulda saved me 75 bucks lol. I dont use em anyway. Not that it doesnt look good. i just dont like em on there. no matter how "invisible" they are supposed to be i believe it still affects the sound.
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Perhaps... the grill will tame the bright sound of the Axioms? Maybe... Maybe...
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I think the brown ones will tame the brightness better. its a scientific fact (shamelessly borrowed from another thread here )
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That's a complete bogus -- Totally unscientific!!! Of course, black is the color that will make it least bright!
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Bright? BRIGHT?! NAWHHH! NO WAY!
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amie, now we just need magnetic retro fit kits. then my wife could have one color for everyday use, and naturally a special color for company. kinda like the pans on the stove that get swapped out; nice clean shiny ones for company.
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I have been w/ my girlfriend for almost 3 yrs....things like that make me put off getting married another year =)
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been attached at wrists and ankles for 25 years (stealing a line from firesign theater), and together for over 28 years. since i sell the pans, we regularly replace the burners and pans. if you have a dishwasher, pick up a product called dishwasher magic, fantastic. so when are you coming to "audition" the kennedys?
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I had the black grills with my maples and I bought the new tan grills and my speakers are so much nicer looking. I still have photos of the two different looks on dvdfile.com forum and I can not belive I actually tolerated the black grills. UGLY!
Thank you Axiom for caring about the looks of speakers as well as the technology of the sound.
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Hey snippy, would you care to post/link some photos of your maple/tan Axioms? Or, can anybody point me to such photos? -- I don't think this site shows any, right?
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Sushi,
I also went with the maple/tan combo for my QS8's only (have black speakers and grilles for M22's and VP150), and both my wife (all important) and I have been pleased with the look. Axiom actually sent me the black grilles by mistake at first, so I had both in my apartment for a time.
The black looked fine, but since we wanted the surround speakers to blend into the surroundings, at least as much as the QS8's can blend into your living room, we preferred the tan grilles and that's what we stuck with. The tan has somewhat of a peachy tint to it, which is the only minor problem with it. But, all in all, the tan grilles are a viable option to pair with the maple speakers if you want them to be less obtrusive than the black grilles.
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I was thinking about going all white with the QS8s, since I really don't like the contrast of 4 panels to a little bit of wood. Anyone have the 8s in the custom white yet? How do they look?
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This is the link to the photos of my set up with black grills and tan grills. The set up as you can tell blends much better with the tan grills. Sorry their are no photos of my QS8s. I need to take the photos of them eventually. They are great looking with the tan grills.
http://forums.dvdfile.com/interactive/forum/showthread.php?t=22144
You may need to register at the site to see the photos but there are a lot of them there.
Hope you enjoy!
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Gah! It does require registration. If you e-mail me the photos, I can put them up on a public web server for ya. (My e-mail is in my profile.)
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i like the contrast of the black myself. i guess that's why radios have so many buttons, to satisfy differing tastes.
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Hey!! That is the TV stand I have.....it is now sagging in the middle!!
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Curtis, I TOLD YOU to get a FP.
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