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Re: SVS PB12-NSD and the EP600
jakewash #204777 04/19/08 09:06 PM
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That's a terrific subwoofer Jakewash...SVS's best product to date. I'm sure you'll really enjoy it.


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Re: SVS PB12-NSD and the EP600
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I hoe so. I know we are going to compare it to Mojo's EP600 and hopefully Framer's EP350 and the PB12-NSD. I just hope we can all get together before I have to send the PB12 back.


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Re: SVS PB12-NSD and the EP600
jakewash #204798 04/20/08 06:23 AM
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Count me in as extremely interested in the results. I'm tempted to order one now just to get my name on the waiting list while I try to figure out if the situation with my EP-600 can be salvaged.

Mojo, I hope it's punch knocks the wind out of you and depth rattles your innards. \:\)


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Re: SVS PB12-NSD and the EP600
myrison #204835 04/20/08 04:43 PM
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 Originally Posted By: myrison
Mojo, I hope it's punch knocks the wind out of you and depth rattles your innards. \:\)
The PB12-NSD can but it sacrifices smoothness to do it. It has a great punch to it but as we have pointed out it became annoying with music. If all you want is some slam and punch for HT, I could recommend this much cheaper SVS.


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Re: SVS PB12-NSD and the EP600
jakewash #204839 04/20/08 05:03 PM
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I agree with Jason on this wholeheartedly.

Myrison, I don't know if you read my post on a Trooper concert that I attended. I had never heard bass like that before. We had to leave a half hour into the show because I was getting heart arrhythmia. Everytime a bass string was plucked, I'd feel it first deep in my chest and then it rattled my junk down below. It was an incredible feeling but my body just couldn't take it for too long. The drum hits almost made me lose bladder control. Indeed, a few that had one too many beer succumbed to the bladder-squeezing pressure waves.

Now I am of course not looking for anything close to that degree of punch.


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Re: SVS PB12-NSD and the EP600
Mojo #204970 04/21/08 05:32 PM
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Thanks Mojo. Yes, that sounds like a bit much for what I have in mind. My "reference thump" actually comes from my car stereo, (Jeep Cherokee Infinity system with a small factory sub, guessing maybe an 8" woofer).

When I listen to the bass in the car the music just has a great lively punch to it that I've yet to be able to reproduce in my home theater room. Maybe it takes a smaller woofer size to generate the slamming mid-range bass?

As a side question, how do these SVS box subs compare to their cylindrical counterparts? Have you guys done any comparisons of those?


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Re: SVS PB12-NSD and the EP600
myrison #204972 04/21/08 05:39 PM
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The frequencies your talking about are more likely above the subs range. There is a difference between bass and LFE.


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Re: SVS PB12-NSD and the EP600
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I too have a thump in the Mazda from the integrated Bose speakers although it's not nearly as nice as the Sony's.

As I've said in another thread, my Sony has a 12" driver with a 150W amp and I get a nice "thump" out of it no matter where I place it. So driver size has nothing to do with it.

Myrison, do you have the 150Hz amp (ie. does the back of your amp say "by-pass" or "150Hz")?


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Re: SVS PB12-NSD and the EP600
Mojo #204990 04/21/08 07:57 PM
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Could it be, simply, that thump = bloated or otherwise "colored by the cabinet" bass?

Re: SVS PB12-NSD and the EP600
pmbuko #205005 04/21/08 08:37 PM
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Mojo, I've got the "bypass" version of the amp. What does that tell me? \:\)

pmbuko... not sure, I would actually define this thump as the opposite of bloated, i.e. it's a tight snappy bass that I'm missing, not the low rumbling tones.

It could be what Randy said that it's too high for the EP600... though from running the test tones and comparing to the bass I'm referencing, I think it's a 60hz sound or just above.


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