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Re: SVS PB12-NSD and the EP600
myrison #205006 04/21/08 08:43 PM
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Can you narrow it down to some specific material? Like a track on a CD that many people might have?

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pmbuko #205017 04/21/08 09:26 PM
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Peter, what I'm hearing is not bloat. I absolutely detest bloat. It's a nice, tight thump.

Bypass simply means it has a steep cliff at 100Hz. The 150Hz amp (which others are reporting they're getting) has that steep cliff at 150Hz. And maybe that cliff isn't so steep if it's been designed the same as the EP400.


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Re: SVS PB12-NSD and the EP600
myrison #205020 04/21/08 09:37 PM
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It could be what Randy said that it's too high for the EP600... though from running the test tones and comparing to the bass I'm referencing, I think it's a 60hz sound or just above.


That's exactly the thump I'm talking about.. except it's well within any sub's range.


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Spoiler #205134 04/22/08 10:19 PM
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Spoiler, the PB12 has a great thump to it that I would say is in that 60hz range as I lose it if I drop the XO to 40hz.

I just received the email the PB13 is now on its way


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Re: SVS PB12-NSD and the EP600
jakewash #205149 04/23/08 02:05 AM
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Spoiler, the PB12 has a great thump to it that I would say is in that 60hz range as I lose it if I drop the XO to 40hz.

I just received the email the PB13 is now on its way


Great news! I'm eager to hear your impressions as well as Mojo's if and when you get to compare it to his EP600.

I'm intrigued by the fact that it has a parametric EQ built into it so that one has more control to be able to tweak its sound to whatever is desired. Since good quality bass response seems to be a highly subjective area, this is good thing.

Although the SMS-1 has been a welcome addition in evening out bass response in general, additional tweaking on my part didn't quite achieve what I like to hear, even though it wasn't 'accurate' bass response. There is some relief to hear that there are at least 3 other frequent posters here that can simply drop a cheaper sub nearly anywhere in their room and get that 'thump' , 'slam' ,quickness etc. instantly, with no extra intervention at all. I'm glad to hear I'm not alone in that respect.

I'm open to the possibility that I've missed something in tweaking after over 2 years of ownership, since I really want an outstanding subwoofer like the EP500 to work for me fully. I love the extreme low end of the sub... no complaints at all.

I understand that enjoying more 'thump' means that I may be sacrificing accuracy in some audiophiles eyes, but achieving what I want to hear has been tough. I'd like to do it with more tweaking, but I must admit my options are open right now.




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Re: SVS PB12-NSD and the EP600
pmbuko #205224 04/23/08 07:53 PM
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 Originally Posted By: pmbuko
Can you narrow it down to some specific material? Like a track on a CD that many people might have?


Well, I can give you a track, but whether most people have it is another question. \:\)

Artist: Buckcherry, Album: "15", track 2, "Next to You" The bass line kicks in at about 8 seconds and continues throughout. It's a fast moving rock song with the type of "slamming" bass that a few of us are desperately seeking. I have a version downloaded from iTunes and even compressed, the bass is exactly what I'm looking for (if I listen in my Jeep, that is) For just 99 cents, you too can enjoy it. ;\)

If you're going to buy it, get it from Amazon as it comes without DRM and is slightly less compressed compared to iTunes.

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Re: SVS PB12-NSD and the EP600
myrison #205258 04/24/08 12:59 AM
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I just listened to the preview on iTunes and my little 6-inch Yamaha "sub" kicked it with gusto. I didn't like the tune enough to spend 99 cents on it and try it on my Axioms, though. \:\(

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That's a great tune! I just played it on my audiobytes and Sony sub and it was just kickin'! Great thump! I've ordered the album so when I try it out on my main system with the 600 I'll let you know what it sounds like.


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Re: SVS PB12-NSD and the EP600
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Any other choice music that you'd care to recommend?


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Re: SVS PB12-NSD and the EP600
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Mojo have you tried the Gwen Stefani cd I left there with the Audiobytes/sub? It has some good bass to it. I know it really isn't your taste in music, nor mine for that matter.


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