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the latest surround gimmick
#20876 09/26/03 04:45 PM
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"Those who preach the myths of audio are ignorant of truth."
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#20877 09/26/03 05:44 PM
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LOL I'm sure the elongated driver case actually contains nothing...

Oh, it actually contains separate drivers there!!!

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#20878 09/26/03 08:02 PM
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What a crock! Geez...


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#20879 09/26/03 08:55 PM
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What's with the .1? You only get bass in one ear?

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#20880 09/26/03 09:05 PM
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That has "CHEAP!" written all over it (and this coming from a headphone nut ).

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#20881 09/26/03 09:33 PM
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I'm sure you can find the best lower frequency response if you are able to experiment on the proper placement of the .1

In this particular case, maybe the trash can.

Cheers!

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#20882 09/26/03 09:48 PM
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All you need is to hook it to the Yin Yang Labs equalizer (see my post in Stereo) in a backpack and you're set to go!

Or maybe Yin Yang Labs will come out with a portable helmet version!?

Yea, that's the ticket!

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#20883 09/26/03 10:00 PM
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i dont know anything about headphones,but the freq response is 50 -20,000--how would you get the deep bass or base(choose one that suits you)is 50 considered deep on headphones or would you miss a lot of the lfe....thanks...ron

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#20884 09/27/03 01:13 AM
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It all depends on how long it takes to break them in....... The first thing I would do is replace the cord......



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#20885 09/27/03 01:35 AM
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There sure is a lot of poo pooing going on here. Has anyone actually demoed them? Let's not be hasty. Who wants to be the first to order a pair and report back? I wonder if there is a money back guarantee?


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#20886 09/27/03 02:39 AM
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What about the delay and x-over...If the freq response is 50-20,000 maybe we should start at 90-100??? What about the back channel delay?? Should it be the same as your "real" 6.1-7.1 setup...So many choices, I am very confused...

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#20887 09/27/03 04:11 AM
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Hey. i bet they would sell out at the star trek convention. Really cool looking! ( yah right ) And, its BASS. not to be confused with base.

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#20888 09/27/03 10:35 AM
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This looks like they took one of those cheap Colby headphones and stuck a bunch of transducers in it and called it surround. There actually are some 5.1 decoding headphone units that are apparently fairly good.

Pioneer Dolby Digital Headphone Unit - and you can even use your own headphones with it, thankfully (the supplied ones look like something out of a cheesy sci-fi movie).

Sony 6.1 Digital Surround Headphone System - Sony has actually had a surround headphone unit out for quite a while now, this is the latest iteration.

Supposedly they both do a pretty darn good job of creating a 3-dimensional soundstage and work well with movies. Sennheiser had a little surround dsp processing unit at one point too. The Pioneer and Sony units are way too expensive for my tastes, but I guess if you NEED your movies at high volume and in surround sound but can't use speakers, you've got some solutions.


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#20889 09/29/03 11:28 PM
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In reply to:

i dont know anything about headphones,but the freq response is 50 -20,000--how would you get the deep bass or base(choose one that suits you)is 50 considered deep on headphones or would you miss a lot of the lfe....thanks...ron



Ron, I would consider the 50Hz bass extension VERY BAD for headphones. It is relatively easy to reproduce an accurate bass in an extreme near-field device such as a pair of headphones. Majority of good phones go down well below 20Hz.

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#20890 10/14/03 02:49 AM
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Hey. i bet they would sell out at the star trek convention. Really cool looking! ( yah right ) And, its BASS. not to be confused with base.


And it's "it's;" not to be confused with "its."

Heh, just being funny is all though - heh. (read: dont flame please )


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#20891 10/27/03 04:32 PM
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I agree with sushi, 50 Hz is horrible for a set of good phones. Most descent ones will go down to 20 Hz.

I don't know if I would trust a CPU cooling company to design good phones either.

Zalman does make some great cooling devices for computers, but surround phones?

Just my $0.02...


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#20892 10/27/03 06:30 PM
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I prefer my old HT setup(from college days) of my Yamaha 2090 and Cerwin Vega's all around for my computer. i dislike headphones.

I have a 2.4C overclocked to 3.3 Gig, 1 gig of dual channel DDR433 ram and a 9700Pro.

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#20893 10/27/03 09:13 PM
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Yea, those just 'suckass' heh.

I'm personally really into headphones (I currently use Sony MDR-V6, and have Sennheiser HD-580's around somewhere and I've used HD-600s and various other Sennheisers) but I don't have a dedicated 'cans camp. I just think that headphones are nice because of the detail that you get, with even mid-range headphones. Yea, the soundstage is just wrong, but if you use crossfeed, or some DSP technology like Dolby Headphone, or a proprietary HRTF you'll be OK. (YEA Yamaha for implementing Head Related Transfer Function when my Denon doesnt have that or Dolby Headphone [although the 5803 that just came out as an update to mine does have DH])

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I have a 2.4C overclocked to 3.3 Gig, 1 gig of dual channel DDR433 ram and a 9700Pro.


Very nice. I am waiting for the San Diego core personally before I upgrade my aging 2000+ (Palomino) running at 2400+ (1.95 vCore with Swifty MCX-462) and 512 MB Corsair XMS 3500 C2 and a 9800 Pro.


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