Re: the latest surround gimmick
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What about the delay and x-over...If the freq response is 50-20,000 maybe we should start at 90-100??? What about the back channel delay?? Should it be the same as your "real" 6.1-7.1 setup...So many choices, I am very confused...
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Re: the latest surround gimmick
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Hey. i bet they would sell out at the star trek convention. Really cool looking! ( yah right ) And, its BASS. not to be confused with base.
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Re: the latest surround gimmick
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This looks like they took one of those cheap Colby headphones and stuck a bunch of transducers in it and called it surround. There actually are some 5.1 decoding headphone units that are apparently fairly good.
Pioneer Dolby Digital Headphone Unit - and you can even use your own headphones with it, thankfully (the supplied ones look like something out of a cheesy sci-fi movie).
Sony 6.1 Digital Surround Headphone System - Sony has actually had a surround headphone unit out for quite a while now, this is the latest iteration.
Supposedly they both do a pretty darn good job of creating a 3-dimensional soundstage and work well with movies. Sennheiser had a little surround dsp processing unit at one point too. The Pioneer and Sony units are way too expensive for my tastes, but I guess if you NEED your movies at high volume and in surround sound but can't use speakers, you've got some solutions.
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Re: the latest surround gimmick
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i dont know anything about headphones,but the freq response is 50 -20,000--how would you get the deep bass or base(choose one that suits you)is 50 considered deep on headphones or would you miss a lot of the lfe....thanks...ron
Ron, I would consider the 50Hz bass extension VERY BAD for headphones. It is relatively easy to reproduce an accurate bass in an extreme near-field device such as a pair of headphones. Majority of good phones go down well below 20Hz.
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Re: the latest surround gimmick
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Hey. i bet they would sell out at the star trek convention. Really cool looking! ( yah right ) And, its BASS. not to be confused with base.
And it's "it's;" not to be confused with "its."
Heh, just being funny is all though - heh. (read: dont flame please )
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Re: the latest surround gimmick
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I agree with sushi, 50 Hz is horrible for a set of good phones. Most descent ones will go down to 20 Hz.
I don't know if I would trust a CPU cooling company to design good phones either.
Zalman does make some great cooling devices for computers, but surround phones?
Just my $0.02...
Last edited by Dr_Spike; 10/27/03 04:32 PM.
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Re: the latest surround gimmick
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I prefer my old HT setup(from college days) of my Yamaha 2090 and Cerwin Vega's all around for my computer. i dislike headphones.
I have a 2.4C overclocked to 3.3 Gig, 1 gig of dual channel DDR433 ram and a 9700Pro.
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Re: the latest surround gimmick
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Yea, those just 'suckass' heh.
I'm personally really into headphones (I currently use Sony MDR-V6, and have Sennheiser HD-580's around somewhere and I've used HD-600s and various other Sennheisers) but I don't have a dedicated 'cans camp. I just think that headphones are nice because of the detail that you get, with even mid-range headphones. Yea, the soundstage is just wrong, but if you use crossfeed, or some DSP technology like Dolby Headphone, or a proprietary HRTF you'll be OK. (YEA Yamaha for implementing Head Related Transfer Function when my Denon doesnt have that or Dolby Headphone [although the 5803 that just came out as an update to mine does have DH])
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I have a 2.4C overclocked to 3.3 Gig, 1 gig of dual channel DDR433 ram and a 9700Pro.
Very nice. I am waiting for the San Diego core personally before I upgrade my aging 2000+ (Palomino) running at 2400+ (1.95 vCore with Swifty MCX-462) and 512 MB Corsair XMS 3500 C2 and a 9800 Pro.
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