Series 1 vs. series II
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I bought the original Epic 80 system before there was a subwoofer option several years ago.
Now I see that there is a series II version of each of the speakers. What is the difference?
Bill
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search tool, this subject comes up all the time. Anyway, there is little difference, just a bunch of minor changes over many years resulted in a name change.
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The main difference is they tweaked the crossover in the M80V2.
Rick
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There was also some tweaking with other things, but it was cumulative. It was determined that enough tweaks had been made over the years that it was time for a name change.
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Anyone know when they did the v2 name change?
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I happened to look at the frequency response curves for the v1 and v2 M80s while I was waiting for mine to ship. Whatever the cumulative changes were, the difference between v1 and v2 is measurably flatter. How much of an audible difference that makes, I don't know.
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Anybody ever think of writing a FAQ for these often asked questions? Some people don't read those either but I often find them easier to use than the search tools on many boards.
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Hi fredk,
In the case of the old M80ti and the M80 v2, quite a bit. I sent a PM to willscary but it isn't as if it's a big secret. In the summer of 2003, we (myself and Axiom colleagues) did extensive double-blind listening tests to the crossover-tweaked M80 v2 and the earlier M80ti. The new v2 version won the tests and I was very pleased. The tweaked version has audibly smoother upper midrange response that's noticeable on vocals and especially brass and reed instruments and strings.
The crossover change was a running one in the summer/fall of 2003, but the model number didn't change until late 2005.
Regards,
Alan Lofft, Axiom Resident Expert (Retired)
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Interesting, thanks Alan. In the ongoing debate on other forums over 'who's speakers sound like what', I am still trying to sort out how to interpret the graphs that folks publish. Since I already know what speakers I like, its really an intelectual exercise. As part of the exercise I posted a simple question on another forum about what people thought the minimum change in db in a speakers response would noticably colour the sound of a speaker. I was not expecting a lot of responses given that not many really care to know, but I got exactly 0 responses. There are lots of ways to interpret that, but I must say I was dissapointed. In contrast to the above, I find your response refreshingly strait forward. I love this site!
Fred
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