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Can't speak for the 350s, but I have 2 500s and the room shakes when it needs to (and they sit on the concrete foundation, on spikes).

Fred,

May I ask which receiver are you using to drive the M80s?

Yes. If you had +-0db it would sound exactly like what was recorded.

If you were to play a series of tones across the spectrum at exactly 85db, then a speaker with +-3db would not play any given tone at more than 88db and no less than 82db.


I'm going from memory here, but I believe that bass is anything below around 200hz, midrange goes from there to 2.5khz and anything above is trebble. I'm probably off on the numbers slightly but you get the idea.

Audioholics has a lot of very good articles that cover this kind of stuff in their learning area.

Its really hard to say exactly how good the MFW is in reality. As an example, if you go by the specs and what people say about the SVS ultra, it blows away the EP600, but from people who have done direct comparisons, the differences are quite subtle. I do not know of anyone who has done a direct comparison.

I expect that there are other subs out there in that price range that will do better than the EP350 for movies because they are able to produce sound effectes down to or below 20Hz. The PB12nsd is an example of that. The trade off is clarity for music. I drove myself crazy for a while, but ended up going for the EP350 for a music first system.

Electronics for less no longer carry HSU, but do now carry SVS products. Since they are in Toronto there is no shipping involved in you trying one of their subs.

Hope this helps some.

They haven't updated their website then...of course on clearance.. HSU

Yikes, their clearance price for the old version is more than HSU charges for the current one! Dosn't seem like much of a good deal to me.

Are you talking about a DVD or a CD? I need some well recorded music in my libaray

I suddenly have that problem as well! I have the Unplugged CD.

The one Genesis disc I have listened to - Trick of the Tail - is also well recorded. Just picked up Selling England by the pound, but havn't listened to it yet.

There must be a list of well recorded music out there somewhere.

Fred, thanks again.
All of this make a little more sens to me now.
Are most of the people able to hear the flatness of a speaker (+-3db vs +- 5db)? I am just wondering because I think I wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Maybe my hearing is not that accurate

As for the receiver, the Denon 3808CI seems really nice but a little bit pricey for me? It seems that most of the Denon and Yamaha in the $700 price range don't support 4 ohms impedance. How come this is not popular?

Anyway, thanks everybody for your input, this is a great community

bdpf, this is the thing, and what makes speaker auditioning somewhat dangerous--sometimes an inaccurate speaker will grab your attention. Why? Because it calls attention to itself. That's why sales guys usually crank up the bass in the showrooms. It's attention grabbing, no matter how bad it sounds.

The problem is, over time this heavy bass, or other over-accentuated frequency, may get tiring to your ears. That's why I like to spend as much time as possible with new speakers.

Also, most speakers we come across, car stereo, clock radio, boomboxes, have some kind of distortion that we've trained our ears to accept as normal. Sometimes, when we hear a well-balanced speaker, our ears may not like the sound right away because they are used to the other, potentially, cruddy speakers.

keep in mind you can buy the 3808 from 6ave.om for $1100 with tax AND shipping.