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Hi Bruno

I currently own the Energy Veritas 2.3s, Veritas 2.0 center and a pair of Axiom QS8s for surrounds, and an Energy 10" sub. My rig is Anthem AVM20 powered by Anthem MC20 and Adcom GFA7400.

Not so long ago, I was intent on replacing my Veritas 2.3 mains because I felt like they really lacked bass. The highs are excellent and the mids are truly amazing, especially on female vocals, but their twin 6.5" drivers did not produce enough bass I thought, I love bass and lot's of it.. but not at the detriment of the other frequencies, in short, I'm very picky and I want it all in spades.

Because I'm talking specifically of bass here, I auditioned the RF82s but was thinking more about the RF83s.

After my audition of the RF82s, I was quite disapointed. And I must tell you that I am ok with the Klipsch sound, I've had a pair of Promedia 4.1s and now 5.1s playing my computer tunes since the very first set were sold in my city.

I came away with the following impressions of the RF82.

The highs were to harsh, screechy, peircing etc..
The mids wore non existent.. remember my Veritas truly excelled in mids.

And most surprisingly, the bass was really not that good at all.. it was not tight and not " visceral " like was I was expecting.

In the end, I moved my Veritas to another room in the house (they were in the basement) and was completely blown away by their bass output.. so, it was not the speakers after all, but the room acoustics.. which is also very important, in fact I would dare say it's KEY to getting really good sound from ANY speakers.

I've sinced made some acoustic corrections with bass traps and absorbers (it's still a work in progress !) and my Veritas sound quite good now in my basement. Good enough that I don't feel like selling them to get " bigger speakers" for more bass.

I have never heard the Axiom M80s, but some people have compared them to my Veritas 2.3s, which cost much more than the M80s.

As an aside, my cousin is also builing a HT room / system from scracth and I am totaly getting him to buy a full Axiom kit.. M80s, VP150, QS8s and EP500.

I know they will sound amazing.. and I can't wait to here them.

Cheers,

Riker

I'm glad I could help bfp. Not so long ago I was the one asking questions. What you can and can't hear is not that strait forward. If it is a very short spike over a narrow freqency range, you are much less likely to hear it than if it is a spike or dip over a wider range, say from 100-200 hz (from what I have read anyway). Some people claim to be able to hear differences of 1db. For whatever reason, the industry has taken to quoting the +-3db range.

I expect any Denon would be able to handle 4ohms. For some reason, some companys who's receivers are known to handle 4ohm loads say they don't. Denon, Harmon Karden, Sherwood Newcastle, Maranz; these are all receivers that should handle 4ohms just fine. Yamaha is hit and miss. Some models are fine, some are not.

Too true, but a call to the store and you can work out a better price. Or at least you should be able to as I did when I bought mine for much less from them.

Hi Riker,

Glad to hear some input from someone that heard the RF-82. I also thought that the mids were lacking but also thought that the bass was somewhat OK.



When your cousin will get his system, let me know how it compares to yours.

Cheers,

Bruno

Hi Bruno,

I will certainly let you know once I setup my cousin's place. It's going to be exiting researching, implementing and configuring the entire HT room from scratch.

the biggest challenge is the projector and screen.. I know TVs a lot more than projectors, but the good people here already gave me a lot of good advice.

I am very curious to see how the M80s sound vs my Energy Veritas 2.3s. I will bet that they both sound amazing, but in a different way..

Cheers,

Stephane

Where did you see that, I went to their website and it's $1699 and I am not really sure of the shipping cost to Canada.

Just call 6th Ave., ask for pricing on the 3808CI and tell them you got the info from AVS Forums. You'll get the $1100 price.

Thanks