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Re: Understanding how a sub works
anthony11 #216905 07/31/08 12:37 AM
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Correct, sub doesnt turn on at low volumes but at higher than low volumes, it does turn on but doesnt have much thump, it isnt until I get to -20db or higher on AVR volume before I hear a bass to somewhat my liking.

Re: Understanding how a sub works
SirQuack #216906 07/31/08 12:38 AM
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 Originally Posted By: sirquack
Performance wise, I think there is a great difference between the 350v2 and v3. I've owned them both. The v2 did a respectable job in my larger room. However, the V3 has a different amp design and driver. I know in Alan's review, he said the new 350 was comparable to the EP500 in some respects.

So your receiver does not allow you to set the distance from the primary listening position to each speaker, or are you saying you just can't for the sub? This seems odd, even my old prologic receivers from the early 90's allowed for this delay setting.


Nopes, just the sub, I can adjust distance for all other speakers...

Re: Understanding how a sub works
geoffthemonk #216910 07/31/08 01:38 AM
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very strange...first time I've heard that on a receiver, that is a very important missing feature. \:\) ?


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Re: Understanding how a sub works
SirQuack #216911 07/31/08 02:06 AM
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I don't have distance adjustment on my receiver for the sub, either.

So bump the output of the sub by a couple of dB in the receiver, see if you like it better.


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Re: Understanding how a sub works
Ken.C #216913 07/31/08 02:20 AM
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double strange.


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Re: Understanding how a sub works
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Geoff, the 663 does have manual distance adjustments available for all speakers, including the sub, but that wouldn't seem to be the solution for your complaint about the sub level. If the sub trim level on the 663 which showed after calibration(either by YPAO or manually)isn't high enough to send enough voltage to keep the sub amp "awake", you should turn the level control on the back of the sub down farther(say about 1/4th of the way up)and recalibrate(the 663 will have to output more voltage to compensate for the lower setting on the sub's level control).

Then of course, the "thump" that you say that you're looking for may not be a realistic expectation. A sub shouldn't be heard as a separate source; the impression should be that it isn't working but that the other speakers are putting out more bass.


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Re: Understanding how a sub works
JohnK #216943 07/31/08 02:38 PM
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Does anyone thing that the location of this sub is an is an issue? I have attached pictures in one of my previous posts. Itis by my couch, under a table...

Re: Understanding how a sub works
geoffthemonk #216948 07/31/08 04:25 PM
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It very well could have a LOT to do with your problem. As I mentioned above the ideal place would be up front, however, this is not always possible.

According to John, your receiver should have the distance setting for the sub as well as the other speakers. If this is not setup correctly, the sound from the sub will arrive at your ears incorrectly and skew the results.


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Re: Understanding how a sub works
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A simple move of my sub from the middle front beside the TV, to a corner in the front amounted to a VERY noticeable difference in LFE in my main seated position. Not as drastic as your describing, of course, but there could be multiple things all adding up.

Can't remember if you said you talked to Axiom yet. I'm sure they could help confirm or rule out actual hardware issues.


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Re: Understanding how a sub works
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Havent talked to Axiom yet, I was hoping someone from Axiom stumble upon my post. Hasnt happened yet.

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