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I would not bother.
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if the x-over is getting enough power to run the speaker. It will not mind, only if it is too much or not enough power.
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I don't quite get the 'don't bother' posts. It's not like it takes hours of work to do a little test run of "biamping" one's speakers. Like I said, if you've got the extra cables lying around (who doesn't?), the extra channels, and bi-ampable speakers, why not try it? This isn't like getting a tattoo or joining a cult (some might disagree ). I consider 'tinkering' to be part of the great hobby of home audio. Perhaps others do not, and that's totally cool. <Forest Gump> Like my momma always used to say about tryin' new foods, "you won't know you don't like it until you try it". </Forest Gump> It's also easy enough to bi-amp just one speaker. Then you can fiddle with the balance to see if you could tell a difference, L to R. Good luck, have fun, and do try it out. Let us know how it goes.
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Re: Bi-amplification? subject hijack
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Peter, this is not biamping, so there is no benefit and your not increasing the power by doing it this way. That is why I say don't bother. If you want to give it a shot by all means, go for it, I did once.
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This is, in fact, bi-amping. It's not active bi-amping, but it's definitely passive bi-amping. I too doubt that there's any benefit, but...
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true, I should have said it physically is bi-amping. (passive) that is...
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If you want to give it a shot by all means, go for it, I did once. Riiiiggghhhhhttt. Once. Your secret is safe with us.
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It's clear that even in passive biamping the speaker has more wattage available. Now I need to actually do it and see/hear if it makes a difference. I'm just not sure if I want to play them that loud. They already get 200W each so I'll do this when I'm bored one day since I have the cables and connectors.
For now I'm happy just listening and not tinkering heehee
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It's clear that even in passive biamping the speaker has more wattage available. Now I need to actually do it and see/hear if it makes a difference. I'm just not sure if I want to play them that loud. They already get 200W each so I'll do this when I'm bored one day since I have the cables and connectors.
For now I'm happy just listening and not tinkering heehee Actually, that is incorrect. We've been down this road a million times, so a quick search should provide all the info you need. But the bottom line is no, you do not get more wattage. Of course, it does not hurt to try. In fact, what fun would it be if we couldn't tinker?
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To save some time, i think his point is that the amp will only provide the maximum current available, no matter how many paths you provide for that power. Unless you have independent power supplies passive bi-amping is really just bi-wiring. For example, I bi-amp in my car, where the cross-over gets a signal for the tweeter from a good moderate power amp, and the mid-bass gets a signal from a more powerful amp. That is true bi-amping (as I understand it).
To be clear, I'm not implying you didn't' know this, just figured many readers are on different places on the learning curve. (Be damn funny if my example was wrong!)
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