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Re: Does anyone here have any experience with Emotiva?
Micah #232325 12/01/08 03:34 PM
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Here's a wild alternative. Now that you are considering not purchasing an additional Amp, you could put that saved coin towards a new receiver that supports HDMI. It does seem to be the way of the future. Bearing in mind the length of the 'future' is relative in the audio world.

This would be to accommodate a cheap solution to SACD by digging around for an 80GB PS3 that supports SACD. You will need a HDMI capable receiver but you will get Bluray, all the new HD audio formats and SACD. Streaming music and that other thing it does. Games or something I think. ;\)

It's a total rethink but if you can find an 80GB PS3, it's a cheap way to get BR, HD Sound and SACD.


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Re: Does anyone here have any experience with Emotiva?
Murph #232357 12/01/08 07:09 PM
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Bite your tongue!

Ok actually, the thought has crossed my mind once or twice over the last year or so. But you see the trouble is I just can't find a quality 9.1 channel reciever anywhere in it's price range. And much like your first move to a 1000cc motorcycle (after riding 600's), or dating your first perfect 10 girlfriend (up from your previous 6 or 7 star sweethearts), it's hard to go back to something 'lesser' in hi-fi audio as well.

I know that the rear 4 speakers are actually only 2 channels split into 4 outputs and there isn't any difference in what is coming out of them. But I simply haven't heard a Home Theater system sound anywhere near as good as the set-up I had, and I was using very middle of the road speakers in that rig. I can't even imagine how good the Axioms will sound in that format.

I'll stick it out with the 4802 until I can afford the AVP-A1HDCI and the POA-A1HDCI (looking at around $12,000 for the pair if I dig deep for good deals). I mean I'm still feeling burned over this recent leap in technology after waiting it out for years and years and then finally purchasing my current Denon. At the time I figured this reciever would more than adequately provide me with all of the bells and whistles I could ever want for at least 10 to 15 years before I'd need to think about upgrading. But this has taught me that you simply can't get ahead of technology. Who know's what's around the corner, in two years every reciever on the market today may be obsolete for all we know.

HDMI looks to be what everyone has settled on as the wave of the future as far as audio/video connections go. But there is still room for tweeking it. I'm willing to stick it out a few more years with this dinosaur before I purchase my next center piece in my HTC. It won't be bullet proof either, my next reciever could very well be the last of it's kind before the 'next generation' is unleashed upon us all. But that's the chance I'll have to take if I'm going to play this game.

It's a sick addiction. But much like my other money sucking toy, the heavily modified ZX-10R sitting out in my garage, in order to keep up with the cutting edge of motorcycling technology you pretty much have to buy a new bike every 2 years. But I generally keep mine for 6 to 8 years and keep them as current as I can my upgrading whatever part becomes obsolete when the next best thing arrives on the scene. Then when I just can't stand it any longer I'll buy a new one and start back at ground zero again.

The similarities between these two obsessions are striking. I'm not sure which hobby I get more enjoyment out of. They both like to gouge my pocketbook. Maybe I shoud have just stuck with golf!


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Re: Does anyone here have any experience with Emotiva?
Micah #232362 12/01/08 09:06 PM
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I've been pretty happy with my Emotiva gear. I've had a LPA-1 7 channel amp powering my whole system for almost 2 years now, and it's been a solid amp. It was $499 and it drives my M80's (and the rest of my system) perfectly with no problems what-so-ever. No problems with heat or spontaneous shutdowns. I did have one of their LMC-1's (prepro) for a while but ended up returning for a refund due to buggy software.

My overall experience with Emotiva has been positive. I am probably going to buy their new UMC-1 prepro when it's eventually released. But I'm fully intending to use their return policy if it doesn't live up to my high expectations.

But as others have mentioned, there's more to the story. Several highly-respected people here have had problems with Emotiva's 'high-end' amps and M80's. It's been reported that there's definitely a bit of the 'blame game' going on, with Emotiva claiming that M80's have substantial impedance dips. And us loyal Axiom-ites claiming this is untrue, since no other amps seem to have problems with M80's and there are some unconfirmed (to me) reports of people with other 4-ohm speakers (Rockets) having problems with Emotiva amps too.

My advice would be that if Emotiva has an amp that meets your performance criteria and you're genuinely interested in it, you might as well order one to try. If it doesn't work for you, Emotiva has a no questions asked return policy.

Or if you want to bypass the 'what-if' questions entirely, just buy an Axiom A1400-8. ;\)


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Re: Does anyone here have any experience with Emotiva?
PeterChenoweth #232389 12/01/08 11:53 PM
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I looked at Outlaw Audio as well and some of those amps look pretty good at a good price point for what you get in terms of value, however, the two top Outlaw amps weigh 100 and 110 lbs, respectively, meaning I would need a new/extra rack and the WAF would fall to an unacceptable low since I have a lumbar disc problem and would need her help to hoist it into position. The A1400 weighs only 54 lbs and then your only what-if is whether you need all that power. That's the type of uncertainty I can live with, especially since the 663 did not seem up to the task of powering even two M80s to my ear.


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Re: Does anyone here have any experience with Emotiva?
SatKartr #232447 12/02/08 05:24 AM
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I forgot you were running a Yammie, should have bought a Denon and then there would have been no problems.;\)\:D


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Re: Does anyone here have any experience with Emotiva?
jakewash #232477 12/02/08 03:06 PM
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Ah yes, the road not taken, guess now I'll never know! I took the one less traveled by, and that has made all the difference.


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Re: Does anyone here have any experience with Emotiva?
SatKartr #232480 12/02/08 03:38 PM
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How many roads does a man walk down......


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Re: Does anyone here have any experience with Emotiva?
Murph #232489 12/02/08 04:41 PM
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As many as it takes to get the job done right.


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Re: Does anyone here have any experience with Emotiva?
jakewash #232492 12/02/08 05:07 PM
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Re: Does anyone here have any experience with Emotiva?
pmbuko #232494 12/02/08 05:18 PM
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Well out of two possible answers, I guess yours is the closest.


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