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I'll have to check out that movie.

Yep, though it's suboptimal right now as one sub is not the same caliber as the EP600. The other plays down flat until around ~28 (if I remember right), so they're a bit mismatched, but I did level match them both individually and then put them together (and then ran Audyssey).

I've been reading a lot of the "Audyssey" master thread on AVSforum. Chris from Audyssey mentioned that some of the higher end receivers (Denon 5xxx, for ex) have 3 Sub pre outs (not in parrallel) but seperate from each other. this would be ideal as then he said Audyssey can adjust the delay, phase, FR, etc. and apply filters for each sub seperately.

I don't understand why more receivers don't offer 2-3 Sub preouts. He mentioned if you don't have this feature, try having the subs spaced out the same distance (if possible) on opposite walls following Dr Toole's papers, and calibrate them seperately using the RS meter. They MultEQ XT will do a very good job.

On a side note, it is interesting that people from Dolby, THX (including Tomlinson Holman creator of THX), Audyssey, Trinnov (including the folks at Sherwood Newcastle which Axiom sells), etc. say that it is very important if you can treat a room. However, speaker companies say it is a bunch of smoke/mirrors. I suppose they want to sell more subs, so that is why they call BS.

I think I'll stand on the side of THX and others.

That's interesting about the high-end Denon's Randy. 3 sub outs would be very nice for those of us with multiple subs. It's a darn big premium to pay to get there though!

They should market a multiple sub add-on box that will take any receiver's sub signal and split it along with offering those controls for each sub. I don't know how you could make Audyssey see that, but at least you could do it manually? Is it even feasible?

The BFD equalizer I have allows you to tune two subs independently. Audyssey advises you to EQ your subs first if you are using an external EQ and then to run Audyssey to improve from there. So, yes, it seems feasible.

Jason

Ohhhh yeah, I forgot that existed. I may still look into something like that eventually.

Thanks for all the suggestions. I am currently leaning towards the Onkyo 876 since J&R is selling it new for $899. Can the Onkyo drive M80's (I plan on buying those in a month or so)?

Is it necessary to have a center or I am fine with my current 4.1 set up (M22x2, QS8x2, EP350)?

Thanks Again

Before you buy, you should see the other tread re "My M80's" as there is a detailed discussion of Onkyo's with the M80s by some knowledgeable folks. This hyperlink might get you there. http://www.axiomaudio.com/boards/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=234128#Post234128
Look for the comments from Alan Lofft, Axiom Resident Expert

I could be wrong on this one, but I'm pretty sure you're going to lose all of the dialog and other things if you try to listen to a movie through 5.1, 6.1 or 7.1 formats. You would be able to listen to it through 2.1 dolby digital, but that would make your QS8's useless. I'd think a center would be a pretty high priority.