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Re: Audessey/ Sub setup
dewd #238622 01/07/09 07:05 AM
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Yes, the same Denon 2807 and microphone in both rooms.

I’ve used the same process in both rooms including 6 readings (the max locations for mine) each time. In the 20x20 room the settings changed almost every time I ran it. On the 5 back-to-back runs all 6 readings were taken at the primary listening position each time so nothing was changed and it still configured the speakers differently all but two of the times. Also when I did this test on a couple of the runs it re-pinged the surrounds at a louder volume to get a reading, but it didn’t do it every time and there was virtually no background noise. In the 13x10 room it’s configured the sizes the same every time and only changed the crossovers higher on the QS8 when they were corner loaded (which I would expected it to do).

In the 20x20 room as long as the speakers and primary listening position locations were the same then the distance were always the same but often off by as much as a foot. In the 13x10 room the speaker distances have always been down to the inch every time.

I’ve lost count but probably run autocal/Audyssey on this receiver close to 75 times. The auto-calibration never seemed to get the speaker size, crossover and distance all the same in the 20x20 room. In the 13x10 room it seems to set them the same every time unless I change something and it adjusts as expected.

Regardless of the speaker settings it makes, the EQ it's applying makes my speakers sound hollow in both rooms with the 20x20 room being worst. And only in the 13x10 room does it noticeably improve the imaging. I‘ve Googled the hell out of this and I‘m not the only one with Audyssey issues. That’s how I found the how-to and made sure I was doing everything by the book.

Also some people have posted that the Audyssey on the Denon 3808 only seemed to work well after the firmware upgrade. I couldn’t find a firmware upgrade for the 2807 though someone here kindly pointed out that there is one. It’s called the Denon 3808. ;\) So for now I’ll stick to using the tape measurer, SPL meter and calibration disk. It’s faster and I can still listen to music while I’m doing it.

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Dean


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Re: Audessey/ Sub setup
grunt #238702 01/07/09 05:30 PM
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I have heard/read that those that have done the max number of positions had issues with distances etc., a possible glitch in the program. Maybe try just 4 locations to see what that brings up? Even on the 3808, some are still mentioning calibration issues and it appears to me, many have done the full 8 poisitions allowed.


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Re: Audessey/ Sub setup
jakewash #238728 01/07/09 06:58 PM
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Hard to say what is going on there. I've only used Audyssey in a smaller room (11x17x8) and always with an Onkyo.

Have you posted this in the Audyssey thread on AVS? Chris (one of the Audyssey founders) helps folks with their setups.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=795421

Re: Audessey/ Sub setup
grunt #238832 01/08/09 01:46 AM
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 Originally Posted By: grunt
Yes, the same Denon 2807 and microphone in both rooms.

I’ve used the same process in both rooms including 6 readings (the max locations for mine) each time....


So it sounds like you followed the Audyssey configuration guide on AVS, correct?

Also, when the speaker distances are measured, do you get impossible numbers like 0.1 feet? That would most likely indicate a FW corruption issue.

For what it's worth, my MultEQ on Marantz 8001 didn't sound too good. I resorted to manual/spl method. But the MultEQ XT on the Denon made a big difference.


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Re: Audessey/ Sub setup
Hansang #239065 01/08/09 11:28 PM
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I'm no audiophile here, but with the onkyo 3 position auto-cal, so far seems pretty good. Still playing with sub, though. Also did the sub crawl, with a Chris Brown cd (not my music of choice but worked for the bass), and it sounded pretty much the same all through-out the room except for being right by the sub. I also don't have a small or large setting with the 606, or I haven't seen it. But I am able to change the low freq. settings. ? is do I do this on both the fronts and the center?


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Re: Audessey/ Sub setup
audiodreamer #239088 01/09/09 02:57 AM
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Onkyo doesn't use "small/large". They use Full Range (large). Anything other than Full Range is small.

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