Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Advice from Axiom Owners M80s and Denon 2808CI

Rick, I think the Forum is the best bang for the buck Axiom offers.



Stain, I'll defer to actual M80 owners

I think I have my M60's about a foot away. Really, there is no absolute. How the speakers sound is going to depend as much on their proximity to the other adjacent surfaces. Your room, your ears.

What ever makes them sound the best in your room is the required amount. I am stuck with a poor placement and they still sound great, mine are about 3-6 inches away.

Welcome and congrats on your order.

Thanks DG.

I hate having free time on my hands. I keep reading posts and going back and forth between M60s and M80s.....

The only thing that worries me now about the M80s besides the sound quality of the mp3s is the heat generated from pushing 4 ohm speakers. My cabinet is one of the enclosed entertainment centers with glass doors on the front. The receiver gets warm to the touch pushing my current speakers, some 10 year old Sony tower speakers. I know lots of people are running Denon AVRs without problems but does anyone's receiver get hot at all? I cant take the doors off of my entertainment center because my kid would be all over the pretty lights.

From what I have read, everyone seems to be happy with both.

And just think...only 3 weeks till they ship. Enough time for me to over think things and change my mind a million times.

You could take the doors off, kids do learn not to touch things, eventually. They are only buttons etc, they really can't do much damage to anything. Another possibility would be a cooling fan mounted to the cabinet to move some air out of the cabinet. My Denon is in the open so I can't really comment, it just gets a little warm.

Those older Sony speakers might not be as efficient as the M80s and require more power. What are their ratings?

My PSB's are also low ohm and my Denon 3300 does get hot. I used to have it in a closed cabinet and had to add a cooling fan to keep it cool. Now it is open air, so no issues, but better start looking for a fan if you want to protect your AVR from heat and little fingers. And yes, little fingers can F up a Denon AVR - been there, done that.

Oh!!!!!!!!!! And it starts already!!!!!!!!!! I did warn ya!!!!

Don't worry! These guys have the patience of SAINTS and will be with you every step of you changing your mind. They actually like that! (I think?) They feed these little dastardly thoughts into your pretty little head for weeks and then POW!!!! They let you have it like it's all YOUR fault. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry, I had to let that out. I had a Mitsubishi back in the day. Had a big volume knob. I drilled a hole in the knob and one in the face of the receiver and put a screw in each hole that couldn't pass each other at a certain point even by me. EVERY TIME I turned on my receiver my volume was turned up all the way. I think I blew a few componenets in my speakers and I have been without up till now with this purchase. Better find another way besides taking the doors off! Good luck! and don't worry. You have plenty of time to change your order. again and again and again and again.....................

LOL. Right you are Bob. I think the more you the harder the decision is when everything isn't cut and dry.. Maybe if we didn't order from the factory outlet we wouldn't have had the time to agonize over the decision.

Wid,

Speakers are 8 Ohms and rated for 200 watts. I looked online and cant find any info on sensitivity or frequency response. Im sure the Axioms are more efficient.

The only reference i found online was this youtube video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEN9E44MiBM

Mine don't sound that bad thankfully, but I am looking forward to the upgrade.


Zimm,

Did you just cut a hole in the back and mount the fan blowing out? I have computer fans sitting around and saw a site that sells ac to 4 pin adapters for about 10 bucks.

I currently have my AVR sitting next to my cable box, but may move them so they are each sitting on their own shelf. This should help a little.

This is directed to anyone who is looking at Axiom speakers.

When I first looked at Axioms I started with the M60s until I was assured by many people here on the forums, and personal contact with both Alan and Brent that my Denon would, in fact, be fine with M80s. The reason it may be hard to decide is because there aren't really any 'dogs' here. Whichever setup one chooses, is the "right" setup if you know what I mean. It's always helpfull to PM/email/call Alan, Brent or JC and ask them a few questions before making your decision, they're there to help make the right choice, not to try and sell you more $$. When I enquired to Alan about the M80s combined with a Denon AVR, he assured me it would be fine and suggested that the M22/sub combo would make a very viable alternative as well. I've had a lot of help from the forum as well and appreciate the input of many of the members here. I never expect everyone to be unanimous in their recommendations, but I see an overall consensus about what works/doesn't work/tried it but...ect. Anyway, I did actually change my order slightly a couple of days ago...simply changed from Boston Cherry to Black, because I had purchased a Black P'Digm sub recently. Black speakers sound 'darker' don't they?

If your having problems deciding between the M60s and M80s, let your budget decide. Do you want to upgrade anything with the difference in $$? if not, for me, I would opt for the M80s. They are both going to please you regardless and if anyone needs help deciding, like I did, you can ask for advice from Axiom or from the forums, just remember that you'll get some different opinions.