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Not much of a classical listener but Grados do very well with the Blues.
Yep, Grados are very good at blues too. I probably should have said they just trounce them in "classical".
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So one pair of 595's that I am looking at is 50 ohm, rather than 120 ohm. How much will that change performance compared to the more standard 120 ohm 595 sets?
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... as Dr. Horse's friend might say, "reflect" so when are you going to admit that you are bbigwyres
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So one pair of 595's that I am looking at is 50 ohm, rather than 120 ohm. How much will that change performance compared to the more standard 120 ohm 595 sets? The 50 ohm is the popular one that is easy to drive, you want those. In the end, it doesn't matter that much. If you buy it from any store they will most likely be 50 ohm.
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Naw, although I'm tickled by his "Dr. Horse" line(as you also were since you used it as a sig line for a while afterward), even in the interests of comedic relief I couldn't stomach praising audio technology that's obsolescent(e.g., "vynyl")or never was(e.g., "wyres").
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Naw, although I'm tickled by his "Dr. Horse" line(as you also were since you used it as a sig line for a while afterward), even in the interests of comedic relief I couldn't stomach praising audio technology that's obsolescent(e.g., "vynyl")or never was(e.g., "wyres"). bbigwyres does have his moments of brilliance with his sircrack and dr. horse comments :)...lol...oh how can I forget audiopile
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Well, I went ahead and purchased a pair of 595's. Thanks everyone for your input!
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Just thought I'd update people to my impressions. Keep in my I am new to higher level headphones, so I think the 'wow' factor probably overshadows everything! Anyhow, being receiverless these last days has lent itself well to exploring the 595's. My friend also let me borrow his 650's for comparison.
The short of it: I can definitely tell a difference between them, even without an amp on the 650. But am I unhappy? Not in the least, since both headphones are simply stunning. As in, holy crap!
The major difference in my mind was that the 650 seems to be able to distinguish between noises better, so that the soundstage was just super super super clear. You could just hear even the most minute detail. Th 595 did a very good job of it, but on some tracks it was just a tad more.. grainy? That's gotta be the wrong word, because it sounds negative, and the 595's were still really excellent. In terms of sound though, I had a hard time telling any other differences (so far).
The only other thing was that the 650's sat better on my head and ears, but that was probably because they have been broken in a bit better.
Anyhow, I am very happy with the 595's and I don't think I would have spent the extra $250 on 650's if I had the option after doing the comparison. But now I have desktop amps running around my brain...
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Nice impressions.
If you spent more time with the 595's and the 650's you will realize that the 595's have a more "forward" and "bright" sound. This means they have more emphasis on the highs than the 650's do. The 650's and 600's are a bit laid back.
Having been in the hobby for a while...the 595's can have a "honky" or "bloated" mid/upper range. This means its a little too emphasized and not as well defined. They are still excellent headphones. I was happy with them for a long long time. The 650's just excel at being much more refined - that is something you're only going to get more of if you invest in a good amp/source setup.
So, stay with the 595's and really get to know the sound signature, you'll enjoy them even more.
Congrats on the purchase!
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It's a decent mix of music these days, although I find myself listening to a lot of folksy stuff (Garcia, Rice, Bella Fleck), blues and classical. On the flip side of that, I also love the White Stripes, Shins, Postal Service, Belle and Sabastion, etc. Not really hard rock or metal. Think the 595's are up for that?
I don't think I would ever really use them without being hooked up to the receiver, since when I'm on the move I tend to prefer in-ear headphones. And I'm in Baltimore city... and would rather keep a low electronics profile while outside... ha ha.
Any specific online dealers you can recommend? So far it looks like ebay is coming up with the lowest prices.
- Sam Senns trounce grados in classical and blues. If you were more of a rock guy it would be more of a toss up. Look in the "For sale" section on head-fi.org. Otherwise, Amazon.com seems to have the most consistently competitive prices. I have a pair of Grado RS1's and love them for all sorts of music. They're great for rock, blues and classical although I've never done a direct comparison to Senn's I can't imagine being disappointed with them for any type of music. I've got a nice set of 3rd party circumaural pads that make them alot more comfortable and to my ear really improve the sound. Paired to a headfi amp this has been my listening station for the last few years... soon to be replaced by my yet-to-be-delivered axiom setup. Although I'll actually keep my listening station in my office for unobtrusive listening sessions
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