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Hi, I’m planning on get a system with Qs8, Vp150, and either a HSU or SVS sub…

My room is likely large enough for the M80’s however, I’ll want to be sitting close to the front as I have a smaller T.V.

I read in the forum that you generally recommend:

M22’s for < 10’ small room.
M60’s > 10’ medium room
M80 >13’ large room

How about my situation where I have a large room but will be sitting quite close. Ie: about 7 -> 8 ‘. Will the M22’s be OK…


Thanks, Davem

My first thought is...How small is your TV that you need to be 7'-8' away from it? My TV is 32" and we sit 13' back.

Here are some other points that will help. Exactly how large is the room? How loud will you be playing them? Do you plan on upgrading the TV, or is the little bitty TV here to stay?

Well its a new 1 year old 32" HDTV, so its here to stay. Room is about 20'X30'. We listen to alot of Jazz and Clasical but also like alot of Classic Rock. Listening level just loud enough to feel as if I'm "there" definitely not Head banger levels.

We could sit back further be we find being closer a bit more involving and we'd prefer to stay at about 8'

I'm also wondering about the subs but I guessing you'd recommend the larger HSU or SVS sub, given the room size.


Thanks for the reply Spiffme, Davem

At 8', if it were me, I'd get the M22ti and a Hsu VTF-3.

Thanx Spiffnme, this is pretty much what I was thinking

Much appreciated!

Cheers, Davem

I would agree, 22's... But, if I had it to do over again in my room, I would go with Twenty Twos as the mains AND the center ! I find the VP150 very good at what is does, but it only makes sence that a 22 would be better.. Yes no ?
As the majority of the sound is coming thru that center channel, wouldn't a full range speaker, not to mention an exact match, give the best responce ???
I believe the primary reason the vertical center speaker is not a common arragement for home theaters is asthetics..
Speaker manufactures have merely met that demand..
I just may have to order one and give it go.. Or, has someone already tried this out there ? I know it's been talked about now and again.. Anyone ?

Mikey, I use my M22s in a stereo setup, but for HT I do use a small vertical speaker identical to the mains. The height of the M22 might be a problem and I've often suggested the M2 for a center(2 or 3 have reported good results using it), but other than the height the M22 would be an ideal center with M22 mains.

thats a good size room you have there,you might want to consider dual subs...ron

8' from the TV how far to the speakers from the listening position? 10" The M22s are fine, but I'd go with the M60s. That's a large room to fill with music. BTW, I'd go with twin subs if possible.

I've always thought that center speakers were designed or "voiced" with attention to curtailing excessive sibilance from spoken voices. No?
I think I read that somewhere a long time ago. Could have been some Bose literature.

Why not just get a M60, just turn the volume down.

I'm not sure how serious you folks are about this,but I'm seriously wondering why wouldn't this work and even be alot better. Ever since the post about why placing the M22's on their sides is a bad idea I was thinking then why are centres arranged horizontally. If its bad for good dispersion for a "normal" speaker then it should be just as bad for a centre. No? Everyone talks about how the VP150 is better, one reason being better of axis dispersion, achieved only by adding more tweeters and woofers...

I'm a newbie and maybe crazy but this was what I was wondering if I could do:

Why not have two M2's as a centre channel. I'd think this would be ideal. You'd have excellent dispersion and could move them closer togethor or further apart and toe them in or out to optimize the centre channel presence. I'd expect you'd want them pretty close since you probably would easily mess with the soundstage of the mains and generally want a point source for the centre, as I understand it. But you really would have flexibiliy in the placement and orientaion. At the vary least you could place them on their side like a centre speaker either wttw, wtwt,twwt orientation (much like the VP150). Talk about flexibility. Correct me if I'm wrong but connecting them to the same channel would not be a problem since two 8 ohm speakers should give an equivalent of 4 ohmn's, not a problem for any descent amp.

And when they're not in use as HT centre's you'd have a pair of one of Axiom's most applauded bookshelves for stereo elsewhere. This would also be alot cheaper.

Tell me I'm I nuts?

What if any problems would I have with this?

Why shouldn't I do this...?

Regards, Jane

As I'm sure everyone is sick of me saying, I'm planning on doing just such a thing. ('course, mainly because my wife doesn't like horizontal centers sitting on the TV), but when I checked with everyone about 6 months ago, the general concensus was that it would be fine.