Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Home Theater UPGRADING SUB QUESTIONS

Hi everyone I just completed my axiom 5.1 setup with 2 QS8s, 2 M22s, a VP100 center and the EP-175 sub. First I am hoping axiom will let me send back my EP 175 I have owned it for about 3 months to trade up. I am thinking either the EP400 or EP500. I have it all in the corner of my bedroom with the sub in the closet sort of. Is there a hugh difference between the 2 subs? Is the EP500 too much sub for my system? What would U experts get with my current config. I have this setup for both music and movies but felt the EP175 was lacking for music but fine with movies. I finally got all the bugs worked out with my new Oppo Bdp-83 and Sherwood Newcastle R772 AV and think more Bass is needed just need to choose EP400 or 500.

Have you looked into other sub manufactures?

ALso with my configuration what should the crossover be set at? I have it at 80hz for the fronts center and surrounds. Is that correct?

If I got a differant company I wouldnt be able to trade my 3 month old EP175 sub

In a bedroom I think the EP400 would be the better choice due to its smaller size which might allow you to try more placement options within the room. The EP400 and EP500 will probably be a big improvement over the EP175.

I am suprised you say the EP175 was lacking for music and fine with movies. I would have thought the opposite.

Ya might be better off selling it out right anyway.

Guy, I'm sure that Axiom can accommodate you on a trade-up. I've been using the EP500 with my M22s for over two years now and the combination is superb for music, including pipe organ. For a lower price, but still a significant step up, you might consider the EP350.

The 500 is a LOT more sub than the 400. I've heard them both. The 500 also has a different sound to it than the 400.

Before you spend money on a new sub, try moving your existing sub out of the closet. Placement has a lot to do with sub response.

I have the 175 and the 500. Obviously, 175 is not even in the same ballpark as the 500. I haven't tried moving the 175 around much, but I wouldn't expect *too* much from the 175. Again, my perspective is skewed because I have the 500 as well.

Given the choice, I would not have gotten the 175. The size limitation (small space to put the sub) forced me to get the 175.

Not to hijack the thread, but i am also looking to add a SUB to my setup. I donot have much option with placement. It will be one corner in the front just beside the M80. No other place to keep it.

Am i better off going with down-firing like SVS cylinder or front firing 350 or 500 would be good too?

Also on the center channel (VP150), i have it on fireplace mantle and touching the wall. (no space behind), am i hampering the sound? Should it be moved away from the wall?

I will post photos soon. Got most of the setup done.

Help appreciated as always.

Regs,
Avi

There's little difference between the front and down firing. If one was better, everyone would use it.

If space is an issue, the cylinders have a smaller footprint and tuck nicely in a corner.

The VP150 is not ported in the back, so it should be fine near the wall.

Isnt there an upgrade page somewhere here that tells you how much axiom will give you when you punch in the serial number of the speaker you want to upgrade? Someone put a link up once to it put I cant find it.

Here you go... Beta Version - Trade Up Program

Thanks for the link. Is this link on the store or was it just sent to members? Just curious because I couldnt find it anywhere. Now have to decide what sub to get since I can get almost the full price for my EWP175 back according to the link anyways. Its between the 350, 400 or the 500 (this is a bedroom system.) probably the 500 that way if I trade up my fronts ever it will still match.

Thats easy. The 500 if size is not an issue and the budget allows. The 400 if space is an issue. The 350 if you need to fit a budget.

Well I did it I ordered the 500. Axiom is great in allowing the trade up deal. The people living next door to me might not think so though

That is a huge step up from the EP175 from a performance standpoint. A EP500 in a bedroom, wow! Thats serious yo!

Your bed will surely be 'rockin' every night now!!!

Nice! I can't wait for your reaction the first time you fire it up!

Thanks everyone I have a few friends that were impressed with what I have now wait til they hear my upgrade. Well I guess my living room will be next to set up a system.... Epic 80 perhaps

I would expect nothing less from someone with an EP500 in their bedroom! lol

Yes my bed will be rockin every night even when I am alone. Nice hompage Micah, cute kids and wife.... Be careful on those bikes I used to be into that and snowmobiles and ended up in a wheelchair but with hard rehab I am working on getting out of it.

Thank-you for the compliment, I'm sorry to hear you had a life-changing accident. I've been riding for about 20 years now. I've always been aware of the risks involved. It's unfortunate when something happens like what has happened to you. I hope nothing like that ever happens to me, but of course you never know.

I hope you make it through your rehab in shape to enjoy your life to the fullest again!

Thanks, I dont let it get me down at all. But off course it helps when one doesnt have any money problems and can enjoy so many expensive hobbies ( Got huge settlement from acccident) I feel guilty sometimes because so many are hurt from this bad economy. Now that I have learned more about home theater with my bedroom I can start planning my livingroom. Could use recommendation for a good a/v to start for that or should I go amp, pre- amp?

Guy, I'm certain that it's a great comfort to you to be able to enjoy such fine sound. As far as your living room setup, yes, a receiver is almost always the sensible, cost-effective way to go. Putting things into two or three boxes instead of one doesn't work any magic. The same standards apply and if the amplification is audibly flat from 20Hz-20KHz, with inaudibly low noise and distortion(typically available these days in receivers of even modest cost), that's all that any amplifier can do, regardless of how expensive it is or what its maximum power capacity is. Laboratory measurements and properly controlled blind listening tests confirm this. Two units that have all the modern features and more than enough power for nearly all uses are the Denon 4310 and Onkyo 876. Both should be on your list for consideration.