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Re: FNG
BlueJays1 #269208 08/14/09 03:18 AM
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If Audyssey is run correctly following the steps in the Official Audyssey post over at AVSforum, I think you will have a different opinion. It is night and day difference with Audyssey and Dynamic EQ on or off, and the graphs don't lie either.


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Re: FNG
Joebob #269209 08/14/09 03:56 AM
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Joe, welcome and enjoy(of course it's clear that you already are!). As to the room equalization part of Audyssey, keep in mind that all speakers, even the best ones, are affected by room problems. As Randy pointed out, although this is nominally an "automatic" process, for best results you have to follow correct procedures. It's unlikely that you've had time the first day to work with this in detail, but later on when you do have the time to experiment you may find a significant benefit.


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JohnK #269211 08/14/09 04:45 AM
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Or you could just leave it off and be happy without it! Some people (certainly not including SirQ or JohnK!) just don't like it.


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Ken.C #269215 08/14/09 07:00 AM
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 Originally Posted By: kcarlile
Or you could just leave it off and be happy without it! Some people (certainly not including SirQ or JohnK!) just don't like it.


Agreed. By all means try the checklist on AVS but don’t kill yourself trying to make it work better. I’ve run it more times than I can count in 3 different rooms and in all cases found my system sounded better with it off. No A/B comparison needed either, it flat out makes my speakers sound like crap.

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Joebob #269216 08/14/09 09:00 AM
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 Originally Posted By: jollo
I've been lurking for a bit, so I've read the tobogganing kung fu panda thread.

I like this guy already! You're gonna fit right in to this nuthou... um, forum.

Nice avatar by the way.


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Re: FNG
fredk #269218 08/14/09 11:34 AM
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I fall in the camp where Audessey always make my particular system sound 'flat', no matter how many times I run it and how careful I am. I'm not ruling out that something isn't wrong in my usage or maybe even the mike, as it often takes several attempts to recognize all speakers, but I'm so Extremely happy with it off, I just don't feel the need to keep trying.


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BlueJays1 #269221 08/14/09 12:27 PM
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Welcome and congrats on the purchase!


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Re: FNG
Murph #269249 08/14/09 02:59 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Murph
...but I'm so Extremely happy with it off, I just don't feel the need to keep trying.



And isn't that what matters anyway? Audysey is a 'room correction' program yes? So logically if you have everything set up correctly and your room is fairly good dynamically speaking, then Audysey should be of little to no value right?

SRoode played his system with it turned on and turned off and it was noticably more pleasing to listen to turned off. But of course there are few rooms out there as well set up as Steve's room, just using his for this example. Anyhow if JohnK and others set theirs up and are delighted with the way it performs then that's great. If you set yours up and feel it's at all inferior to the normal settings, then by all means turn it off and enjoy your entertainment 'all natural'.

I'm planning on moving up to a reciever with HDMI capabilities. If it has Audyssey I will certainly set it up to the best of my abilities and try it out. But I won't treat it as something that's supposedly 'superior' to the normal set-up, I will just pick which ever one I prefer and roll with it. Heck I never did like Pro-Logic when Pro-Logic was supposedly the greatest thing since vinyl. I always thought it made the dialog sound like it was being played out of a tin can. Could have been my 'less than stellar' speakers. But either way I tried it on several occasions and just plain hated it.

But who knows, Audyssey may just knock my socks off in this room of mine. I do intend on giving it a chance.

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Re: FNG
Micah #269283 08/14/09 05:46 PM
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Ooops... I didn't mean to start anything with the Auddssey comment. I've read most of the Auddssey thread on AVS and I know how to run it. I even have one of those elastic shock mounts for the calibration mic and I use a boom stand.

I've played guitar and bass in rock bands for 30 years and I have a pretty good idea of what music in a room sounds like and for me, Auddssey aint it. I can hear what it is trying to do and I get the concept. I just think that because my room is so weird (20 foot ceilings, totally asymmetrical layout and an open floor plan to the rest of the house) that Auddssey in my older Denon doesn't have enough processing power to do the job correctly.

Anyway... it's all about personal preference, isn't it? Whatever sounds good to you in your room is what is right. \:\) I know that in my room the bass is a little bloated and the mids are probably too muddy but Auddssey just sucks the life out of these great speakers (for me).

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Joebob #269290 08/14/09 06:44 PM
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You nailed it Jollo. If it ain't broke way fix it. By the way I enjoy reading your posts. Hopefully you decide to stick around these parts.


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