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Ugh! That was beautiful. Ya gotta admit it was a softball...but outta the park it goes!!

Hopefully the playing... Not so much the installing.

Charles, for a bit more detail, here's the page where Mojo described his blind-test experiment.

That is interesting. I'd like to see it matched at 95db as I think that is nearer the "real" sound volume and presents peaks well in excess of what some amps will control.

But, I do concede that even at 75db I'm very surprised (and skeptical) about the test results. Again, just comparing my Denon to my separate amp, there is a quality of sound difference. Not "warm, or bright or blue or green", just a very obvious harshness on certain male vocals and horns and some guitar notes that does not occur via the separate amp.

Anyway...

Lampshade,

If you are going to connect your low-powered SET to someone else's M80s, be very careful not to turn it up so that it clips. Clipping is clipping, whether from a tube or solid-state amplifier and that can certainly endanger the tweeters.

You'd likely hear a kind of mushy distortion and collapse of the stereo soundstage before the clipping would damage drivers.

Regards,

Alan

Just remember he was comparing to his Denon 2805, not much of a leap when you think about it this way, but comparing it to an outboard amp, huge difference IMO.

Alan,
that is very interesting. I am glad you told me that. I thought that tubes clipped "softly" and would not damage tweeters. I know of the collapse you mentioned because I do drive a pair of 89db speakers with the SET.

I know it won't drive the 80's to be really loud and I am just curious to hear how it good it sounds.

Thank you for everyone for the stereo input and the mother jokes.

Lamp,

In terms of listening, tubes do clip "softly" whereas the solid-state amps generate a nasty hard distortion. However, if you view the output of an amplifier on an oscilloscope, monitoring the waveform as the amplifier reaches its output limits, a tube amplifier is just as capable of flattening the waveform as a transistor amp. It's just a more gradual escalation towards distorting the waveform.

As the waveform becomes more "clipped", it begins to approach DC, which is what will damage voice coils of any driver.

Alan

I used a 5 wpc SET tube amp to drive a pair of M3s. It was one of the best sounding systems I've ever listened to. M80s are as efficient as M3s though a more difficult load to drive.

I have a Kenwood KA 9100 2 channel integrated amp driving a pair of M22s (previously Dahlquist DQM 905s) in my garage system. The meters indicate that at decent listening levels the amp was rarely asked to put out more than 2-3 watts.

Of course, tube amps are known for soft clipping so low power tube amps are unlkely to hurt your M80s.