Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Advice from Axiom Owners Swan Diva 6.1?

They are having a sale on these and didn't know how they compare to the Axioms.
Swan Diva 6.1
Has anyone demoed these? Thoughts?

Thanks,

Jason

Only thing I know about them is they use HiVi drivers, I've never heard them though.

This is the response I received when asking comparison between the two from another site.

"Well, not to sound predictable, but they're not in the same class. The Swan are the more refined, lower-distortion, and significantly more powerful option. Plus you get bentwood cabinets and generally better quality throughout."

I doubt they can handle the power the M80s can. That and they do take more to power to reach a certain db level as their sensitivity rating is much lower, 89db compared to 95db for the M80s.

Who ever made that statement must be ignorant to the M80s specs.

When you look at the frequency response of the Swans they do not have a +/- to the 35Hz-20kHz they publish. How would one know the true frequency response.

The M80 on the other hand do: Freq Resp +/-3dB (Hz):
34 - 22kHz

Axiom gives an honest frequency response.

Agreed, if you look up the specs on the drivers on HiVis website, they certainly fall well short in the power dep't vs the M80s....."significantly more powerfull"??????

I'm wondering how an unpowered speaker could be "more powerful."

Hey, where'd the popcorn go?

The great popcorn famine....

Chinese, vertically-integrated marketing at its finest.

They make a dizzying array of products.

We had an interesting thread a few years ago.

They may, in fact, sound fine. It would not give me satisfaction to own them, because I perceive no personal craftsmanship in their manufacture or design.

This is the Axiom forum; what do you think we're going to say?

I was kind of hoping someone on the forum had heard both, and could give me a comparison of what they thought of Swans compared to the Axioms. Figured it was worth a shot with another ID company.

Jason

If you search for "swan" in the search function, clear out the From and To information, there are some old threads, but not much.

I'll take a stab at deciphering the quote by saying the Swans sound much like many other speaker out there of similar quality, slightly laid back and smooth top end (very generalized I know but it works for me).

And we know what many folks think of Axioms at other forums.......

IIRC, Swans used to create much drama on AVS. I've never heard them but they were on my long list of online speakers when I started looking years ago.

The FR graphs on their website show they are a fairly linear speaker so they should sound pretty good, the 6.1's look to have a slightly recessed midrange and drop off the highs a little, this is what I based my idea of what they sound like from and the fact many that like them like other speakers I would term 'laid back' in comparison to Axiom.

The current darlings on AVS are the Salk Song Towers.

Yeah, and the Song Towers are AWESOME. Heard them at a GTG in Oregon a few weeks ago. Would like to hear them next to some M80's.

Were the Salk's the actual Song Towers or something else from Salk. The song towers make me think of boring a couple holes in a VP100 and adding a base.......

Heard several things from Salk, including the Songtowers. They are a mass-loaded transmission line. Huge sound.

My wife and I both prefer "brighter" speakers which is why we leaned towards the axioms in the first place.

If you mean detailed I agree. "Bright" is usually considered a derogatory term with regards to audio.

Then you are ready for M80s......Not that they are truly bright but play very linear and forward sounding as the mids and highs are not rolled off at all.

Jump on in jahusker. The water is mighty fine!

For the cost of return shipping, it is worth the time and effort to see if these speakers meet your expectations.

Tom. I didn't realize you made it to that Oregon GTG. I would love to hear your thoughts on the st and other speakers there compared to Axioms offerings.