Re: Large or Small M80s for Music ?
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The sub will play everything below 60hz. The m80's reproduce everything above. Its not a brick wall though, roll off is still involved.
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I use mine in stereo as large with a sub cross of 40Hz. For all multichannel, they're set to small with a sub cross of 40Hz.
Works for me. Ken, if you have your sub xover at 40hz with your M80s set to Small, what is the xover of the M80s ? when I set my mains as Small, the xover is automatically set for 80hz.. which would make a hole between a sub xover of 40hz and the mains at 80hz Just curious,
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When using a receiver for bass management, the cross over on the sub should be set to bypass, or as high as it goes.
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Your subwoofer is probably not adding much. What is your sub btw. Your M80's probably go just as low as the 8". That was just as an example, I was trying to say the same thing you are.. a small sub with M80s won't add much .. I have Veritas 2.3s which are very similar to M80s in terms of size and frequency and my sub is an Energy 10" (120W).. my setup sounds best when mains set to large and sub at 70 to 75hz
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If a speakers rolls off below 40hz, then it should be set to large, otherwise, it should be set to small. That is what most receiver mfg's, like Denon, are following now. At least that is what the founder of THX says.
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When using a receiver for bass management, the cross over on the sub should be set to bypass, or as high as it goes. Agreed, and in my case the sub xover frequency is controlled by the receiver settings..not the physical sub which is set to bypass.
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Actually, mine (H/K AVR525) are set as follows for surround: M80s: 40Hz--as i understand it, everythign below 40Hz is not sent to the speakers unless they're set to large VP100: 100Hz QS4s: 120Hz LFE: 120Hz--so it will play all of the above, yet only up to 40Hz for the mains if set to small
Stereo: M80s: 40Hz Sub: 40Hz
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I set my M80s to large w/o a sub for almost all 2ch music. I listen to lots of Goa/Psy-Trance and feel the rapid bass beat is tighter. There are some things I listen to with things like kettledrums that benefit from the sub but those are all multi-channel. Once the room is completely set up I’ll try to find a better place for the sub and try again for 2ch but for my needs the bass from the M80s is just fine.
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