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#280407 - 11/24/09 07:04 PM Given the choice btn side-by-side150's or M80s...
Hansang Offline
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I wonder which will work better. Two VP150's side by side or one M80? I would think two VP150's but I'm not sure.

Since I won't be able to get around to height speakers for a while (I want the FWs etc to settle down first), I figured I could fight upgraditis with this.

It's not even that my lone 150 sounds bad or anything...but I figured more is better. Having read about the lobe effect, I was wondering if others have done this. I do recall some of you using M80's for centers so I thought I'd ask.
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#280408 - 11/24/09 07:17 PM Re: Given the choice btn side-by-side150's or M80s... [Re: Hansang]
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Side by side horizontally? How large of a screen do you have?

I'd be concerned about the center starting to make the whole thing sound rather mono.
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#280412 - 11/24/09 07:35 PM Re: Given the choice btn side-by-side150's or M80s... [Re: Ken.C]
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I believe one centered M80 would sound better than two 150s, three M80s across the front would be my very first choice of fronts and center speakers. I've tried it with one M60 and the pair of 80s and the sound was great ... the 60 was just a smidgen too tall for our viewing pleasure.
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#280419 - 11/24/09 09:43 PM Re: Given the choice btn side-by-side150's or M80s... [Re: Hansang]
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If you have the room for a vertical M80 center, that would be ideal, with wider and smoother horizontal dispersion and matching your mains.
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#280423 - 11/24/09 10:20 PM Re: Given the choice btn side-by-side150's or M80s... [Re: JohnK]
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Doh, sorry. I forgot to mention that it would have to sit on its side! It's a 67" DLP and two 150's or M80 fits across the top.
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#280424 - 11/24/09 10:34 PM Re: Given the choice btn side-by-side150's or M80s... [Re: Hansang]
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In that case, I can't see any significant benefit in either the M80 or two VP150s.
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#280428 - 11/24/09 11:51 PM Re: Given the choice btn side-by-side150's or M80s... [Re: JohnK]
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You would not want to turn an m80 on its side and 2 150's side by side most likely would resolve nothing, if anything it would widen the center sound stage and give you less seperation from the left/right speakers.

Not sure I understand what your trying to accomplish.
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#280429 - 11/25/09 12:03 AM Re: Given the choice btn side-by-side150's or M80s... [Re: SirQuack]
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Yeah, I'd also stay away from either configuration.
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#280431 - 11/25/09 12:06 AM Re: Given the choice btn side-by-side150's or M80s... [Re: Ken.C]
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Don’t tell me you can’t fit one vertically above a DLP. ;\)

http://www.axiomaudio.com/boards/ubbthre...true#Post219121

Based on your placement restrictions I would recommend that you stick with one VP150. After a lot of center channel testing I can give you my take:

A single vertical M22 upside down above the DLP would sound better than a horizontal VP150 for all applications. Unlike the vertical M80 above the screen which pulled the middle of the front soundstage up a little the M22 didn’t do this. Though the effect of pulling the soundstage up gave a wall of sound effect that was not distracting for music. It made the center of the musical stage sound like it was on a dais.

Dual vertical M22s above and below was also better than a single horizontal VP150. I believe Fred is doing this with dual M2s to good effect. I suspect dual VP150s above and below would help give more of a wall of sound effect but you’d loose the advantage having a vertical speakers gives for horizontal dispersion.

Dual M22s on there sides w/tweeters outboard gives a neat wall of sound effect for movies but destroys discrete instrument/vocalist placement for music. Tweeters inboard caused horrible almost nauseating lobing. I suspect dual VP150 side by side would also put two tweeters close together and cause bad lobing.

A single horizontal M80 above the screen sounds like crap for both music and movies.

Yes I had a lot of time on my hands. ;\)
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#280448 - 11/25/09 02:36 AM Re: Given the choice btn side-by-side150's or M80s... [Re: grunt]
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You could go with 2 M2's on top if height is an issue and achieve slightly better results according to those that have tried or heard both the VP150 and M2's
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