Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Advice from Axiom Owners Moving from M3 to M60: Yay or Nay?

I'll second the nice room!

I have Algonquin M3's currently as well as M60's and I used to have Vassallo M3's.

To me there definitely was a difference in sound with the M3's and M60. I played around with them a lot and really like both speakers for different reasons.

Impression 1
Impression 2

I think the VP100 might be "too much" because it doesn't really have the same tonal qualiies as the M3's. It is a more forward sounding speaker to begin with, at least to my ears and is much closer in sound to the M22, M60, M80 series. Moving to the M60s, IMO, will help the center not stand out as much and the M60s will play lower than the M3s which will help with that mid bass. I would also suggest getting a bigger sub to really know what "enough low bass" is that little one must be killing itself trying to fill that much room.

I hope you're wrong, because I plan to go with W3 and W100 in the living room. Personally, I thing that they would compliment each other. Don't see any reason they would have to sound the same.

The do sound similar, but not as close as the M22/M60/M80s(like I said to my ears), just jump up to the W22

I've got the M22 (destined for L/R in HT room) and wanted the W3's for the extra bass that they might supply. I am trying to avoid having a subwoofer in the living room. For movies in the HT room, I'll definately need subwoofer though. Living room is for TV watching and when I don't care to watch on the big screen.

Also, I want the W3/W100 in shiny black. W22's would cost more than the W3.

The M3's/W3's don't supply more bass they just have a recessed midrange, which gives you the impression of more bass...Simply bump up the bass setting about 3db on the receiver and have a listen on the M22s to see what that sounds like.

I voted for more complicated.

First off I have to say what a stellar room. Wow! Beautiful.

Before you watch your next movie try this. Go into your Denon's settings and set your front speakers (M3's) to large and in the subwoofer settings in the receiver change the subwoofer to LFE+Mains and a 80hz crossover for all speakers. Then play a movie and some music and listen for any differences and what you think about it.

I see what you mean, because I printed out the frequency response graphs of the M22 and the M3 and overlayed them with the 60db lines matching. There was no additional bass in the M3 from 20-100hz, but there was diminished db in the 100-2k range. Only a very slight increase in the 80-100hz range. The highs in the M3 dropped off more rapidly than the M22 also. I wish Axiom would loan a pair of M3's so I could A/B compare the sound.

Sorry for not following the intended topic of this thread. It gets too easy to run in tangents.

For the price of return shipping you could try them for 30 days. I'd imagine shipping on the M3's wouldn't be too bad.

Yeah, just there's a long waiting period, when going with shiny black.