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#282106 - 12/11/09 08:23 AM Re: New W22s- where's the beef? [Re: BigHonu]
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I found the beef.

There's a world of difference in receiver quality when it comes to bass comming out of the M22's. With the cheapest Sony receiver I heard satisfying mid and upper range, but almost nothing in the way of bass. But with the cheapest Pioneer Elite receiver, I'm hearing bass that is at least as good, if not better, than the bass that came out of the Subwoofer from my Sony Dreammachine (THIB). I have no other speakers attached to my system at this time, but I get a lot of extra bass out of the setting called "Stereo Front Stage Surround Advance Wide".

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#282108 - 12/11/09 08:41 AM Re: New W22s- where's the beef? [Re: CatBrat]
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SFSSAW?
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#282115 - 12/11/09 01:07 PM Re: New W22s- where's the beef? [Re: EFalardeau]
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That's a mouthfull.
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#282119 - 12/11/09 01:51 PM Re: New W22s- where's the beef? [Re: CatBrat]
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Would this not be a Pioneer custom sound field and logic that could have equalization and not a difference of receivers?

Put the Pioneer and 2 channel stereo no sub or a setting like Pure Direct and see if it changes the performance at all. Of course, if you like the current sound that's all that matters \:\)


Edited by HAY (12/11/09 01:51 PM)
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#282122 - 12/11/09 02:03 PM Re: New W22s- where's the beef? [Re: HAY]
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I've tried all of the settings, including the pure direct settings. There is much more bass in all of the settings over the
Sony. Especially the one I mentioned above (SFSSAW) is more dramatic than the others.

Even though the wattage in the specs are the same (between the Sony and Pioneer), there is a very noticeable difference in power.

Comparing Sony STR-DH500 vs. Pioneer Elite VSX-21TXH.

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#282144 - 12/11/09 03:28 PM Re: New W22s- where's the beef? [Re: CatBrat]
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I noticed the same thing when I upgraded from a mid line Sony to my Denon 1804.
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