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Re: Advice on television choice
ClubNeon #275475 10/18/09 07:44 PM
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Has anyone seen the new LED TVs? I have a Sony LCD that I really like. I do occaisionally notice that the blacks are not as deep and I did see what must have been "black crush" the other day. 99% of the time I do not notice and am perfectly happy. Just wondering what the new LEDs are like.


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Argon #275478 10/18/09 08:08 PM
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I based my comments on my observations of a Viewsonic LED backlit we have at work. It's a small screen but the separate zones are clearly visible when looking at photos. Maybe the newer large screen TVs have smaller zones, but I'd definitely try to see one in a dark room before forking over the cash.


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ClubNeon #275499 10/19/09 12:30 AM
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Speaking of TV's... My church just remodeled the main auditorium area... they have two 16 foot by 9 foot LED screens. Simply Amazing. I might add that their new PA system is the best that I have ever heard.


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terzaghi #275583 10/19/09 07:54 PM
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If I may chime in... this has been thorn in my side recently!

Seems like for decades the only real improvements in TVs were, its bigger. Bigger, bigger and cheaper. Oh, we figured out how to make the front face flat. Yay.

Then all of a sudden in the last, what, 5 years.

480p, 720p, 1080i/720p, 1080p
DLP, Plasma, LCD, LED, OLED
60hz, 120hz, 180hz

Its as bad as computers!!!

My view at the moment is the same as my opinion on computers. Figure out what you need and get just that. Don't bother trying to "future proof" it.

Having said that I'm not an LG Fan. I've seen a number of their sets, including my current 37" 720p LCD, where it doesn't feed its resolution specs to a computer properly. I end up with a 1" black band along the bottom of my screen.

Just for me, if I were buying a TV today, I would get a 46ish 1080p that reports resolution to my laptop correctly. LCD or Plasma depends on whatever is cheaper.

Oh, and I don't like the 120/180hz thing. The contrast and motion is improved too much. Watched Batman Begins on the Father in Laws 180hz Sony... in some scenes you could almost tell where the set lighting was. Just doesn't look right.

How was that for a rant? \:\)

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snazzed #275585 10/19/09 07:59 PM
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Pretty rant-y.


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terzaghi #275588 10/19/09 08:10 PM
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the KRP-600M can be had for close to $2400 if you go through good online dealers. Those TVs still kick the crap out of any LCD I've seen. Father in law just got one of the Samsung LED's and my Pioneer 5020 blows it out of the water.


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thefwam #275589 10/19/09 08:45 PM
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ummm.....I think the latest thing is 240 hz.


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Argon #275598 10/19/09 10:18 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Argon
ummm.....I think the latest thing is 240 hz.


SEE! ITS CHANGED AGAIN! ALREADY!! GAH!!!



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snazzed #275599 10/19/09 10:25 PM
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Ken.C #275600 10/19/09 10:37 PM
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The refresh rate thing only applies to LCD TVs. It is their attempt at preventing motion blur and ghosting. Additionally, the refresh rate has nothing to do with the frame interpolation. It is just that the set makers figured rather than show the same frame a multiple of times, why not try to interpolate the motion between this frame and the next? The reason why they shouldn't is because it makes movies look very un-film-like. Luckily that can be turned off, while keeping the beneficial higher refresh.

Plasma TVs are based off of the same old phosphors which were used to standardize NTSC color. They're glow has a decay rate which is very well suited to the 60 Hz of normal material. The problem is at 24 Hz for film, the pixels have dimmed too much. So Pioneer does display the same film frame 3 times at 72 Hz to prevent flicker.


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