Re: New W22s- where's the beef?
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Axiom does have a trade-in program too. So after the 30 days, you don't get full credit, but still quite a bit. You could get everything in Black Oak now, and a year or so down the road upgrade to the High Gloss Black while retaining most of your initial investment. (That's what I'm going to do.)
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Re: New W22s- where's the beef?
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I would go with the EP350 it has more overall output, better for HT. The little Ep400 does an admirable job but it just doesn't move enough air for a good HT environment. Idealy 2 subs, the EP400 and EP500 would be great, the EP400 could handle the upper bass(full range) and the EP500 could be set up for 60hz and lower with it's own filter.
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Re: New W22s- where's the beef?
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For my HT, I am going to use the EP500, probably, but the EP400 is for my living room with the W100 and W22 combo, because of the extended upper base. It will probably be used about 60-70% for music and 30-40% for TV/DVD/BD. I'm afraid that I would have a big hole in my music, somewhere between 100 and 500 hz if I don't.
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The W22's I would imagine worst case scenario in a bad room or whatever would be able to handle 110 hz or so, so any sub that is level up to 120 would match nicely. Usually the smaller 10" ones are better for that range but don't go real low down to 20 hz and below like some larger subs, but they are best for movies anyway. Something like the EP350 or even EP500 seems to be a good compromise, maybe the 400 (or even 175) for music and 600/800 for movies and their house shattering ability.
For my setup Audyssey set my W22's crossover at 80 hz, but I have bumped them up to 100 hz to be safe.
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Ok. So, here's a comparison of what's in the specs for each:
..SW.......Room.Resp...Max.SPL..Crossover EP125.v2...25.-.150......114....60.-.120 EP175.v2...22.-.150......116....60.-.120 EP350.v3...18.-.150......118....40.-.150 EP400......17.-.150......116....40.-.150 EP500.v2...17.-.100......120....40.-.150 EP600.v2...15.-.100......122....40.-.100 EP800......12.-.150......125....40.-.150
Not sure what this chart is going to look like, but here goes nothing. According to this, it looks like even the EP125 would probably work ok for my living room.
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If you plan on any movies those little drivers just don't do Ht any justice, they work for music, that is why I suggested the EP350, it has the same range and the larger driver, it works great for both. I could also recommend the Paradigm DSP 3200 or the lower 3100 as it did a respectible job with HT when I demoed it, I beleive they run upto 120hz.
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Jay, the Paradigm DSPs all run up to 150hz(3100/3200/3400).
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Re: New W22s- where's the beef?
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My m22 and ep350 upstairs sounds great...
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Abraxas,
Did adjusting the bass tone control help at all, giving them a more "fuller" sound? Since you are working your way up to a 5.1 system one step at a time, I would recommend getting a subwoofer as your next purchase. Have fun!
Cheers!
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Re: New W22s- where's the beef?
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Does anyone know of any links/threads of any sucessful/unsucessful diy subwoofer projects? I've searched here but not coming up with anything.
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