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#2833 - 05/01/02 12:41 PM M22ti for 2 ch music?
audiojr Offline

Registered: 05/01/02
Posts: 3
Trying to set up a 2 ch. system in the bedroom. For $1,400 (taxes included), I could get a Musical Fidelity X-100A (not too sure about the model number, but it is an X series, 75 wpc with a remote control)integrated amp and a pair of Dynaudio Audiance 42. I have auditioned the system and it sounds great hooking up to a MF X series CD player (not included in the price).

I am also considering of getting a pair of M22ti and mate them with a Cambridge Audio 500 amp. The cost should not be more than $1,400 which is my budget for an amp and 2 speakers.

Anyone who has listened to both or either one of the systems, please let me know of your comments.



#2834 - 05/01/02 08:27 PM Re: M22ti for 2 ch music?
PAUL Offline

Registered: 03/01/02
Posts: 23
I have M22's in my HT system,and the M22's played in 2 channel for music will blow you away,with the clearity and sound.You can't go wrong.But if you like alot of bass, then you should have a sub aswell.I have the EP175 Sub. and it fill that void of missing bass out of the M22's.

#2835 - 05/02/02 12:17 AM Re: M22ti for 2 ch music?
2x6spds Offline

Registered: 03/16/02
Posts: 2820
Loc: CA, USA
Hello Audiojr

I got the Antique Sound Labs MGS115DT 5 watt p/c (triode, 15 wpc in pentode) integrated tube amplifier for about $750, Axiom M3s (FO's $220 now $247), Velodyne CT80 8" sub for about $250 )total about $1250. I also spent a few dollars on interconnects (Maple Audio Ambience) and speaker cable (Mapleshade clearview double golden helix Plus). This system sounds so good, it just puts a goofy smile on my face whenever I listen. The speakers continue to astonish me. No matter how good the source, the M3s reflect the improvement with even better sound. This system is accurate, musical, liquid, sweet. The M3s are a perfect match. I suppose one would expect the M22s to be even better. Although this wasn't my experience, praise for the 22s has been both informed and near unanimous. I'd check out the Antique Sound Labs line of amps. The ones I demoed are wonderful music makers and reasonably priced.

BTW, my 5 watt amp drives the M3s effortlessly.

So my first recommendation:

Antique Sound Labs MGS115DT integrated tube amp $750
M3 speakers ($247)
Velodyne CT80 subwoofer ($200-250 discontinued Velodynes are severely discounted)
leaves you $250 change.

Alternative 2:

Antique Sound Labs MGS115DT integrated tube amp $750
Axiom M50 FO speakers $496
Velodyne CT80 subwoofer $200-250
No change.

A solid state alternative you may want to consider is a pair of nOrh/IRD monoblock 100 watt (each) LeAmps ($495) and a nice preamp, maybe like a Parasound PHP 850 (less than $250). Personally, I'd match the LeAmps with a tube preamp - that may cost more. With a Parasound preamp, you'd have $750 for speakers - maybe a pair of M50s (FO's for $496) and a $250 sub.

Good luck
Enjoy the Music. Trust your ears. Laugh at Folks Who Claim to Know it All.

#2836 - 05/02/02 02:28 AM Re: M22ti for 2 ch music?
audiojr Offline

Registered: 05/01/02
Posts: 3
Thanks for your comments and advice.

By the way, I forgot to mention that the $1,400 amount is in Canadian fund. My budget is about US$875 - 900. A sub won't fit in my bedroom and I believe the M50 would be too big as well.

Please keep your comments and suggestions coming!


P.S. Where are thou Alan and BIBBH?

#2837 - 05/02/02 09:48 AM Re: M22ti for 2 ch music?
ravi_singh Offline

Registered: 03/14/02
Posts: 1351
Loc: Montreal

If I were you, I would get the M22Ti's over the M3's if you are only listening to music. You might want to fiddle with your amps settings as well, if there is the choice of setting them as Large or Small speakers. Large will give you more bass.

I have heard the Cambridge 500 stereo amp, my father is thinking of buying it. I thought it was incredible. I heard it with JMlab chorus 706 (550$ CAD retail) and it was an excellent sound. The M22's are likely better speakers, so it would probably just sound better.

good luck deciding! but, just to re-iterate, get the M22's, Factory Outlet if needed.

#2838 - 05/02/02 10:35 AM Re: M22ti for 2 ch music?
2x6spds Offline

Registered: 03/16/02
Posts: 2820
Loc: CA, USA
I never heard the Cambridge Audio amp, but I did buy a well reviewed Cambridge Audio D500SE CD player. I "burned it in" but it never sounded right. The bass was bloated and loose and my 8+ year old JVC CD player sounded better. I returned the Cambridge.

When I got the M3s for my living room, I picked up a Technics SADX940, a 5 channel (5x100 watts) receiver for a song at Fry's for under $150 and a Velodyne CT80 sub. I just wanted a stop gap receiver. I had a 'big' system in my bedroom - Infinity Composition Overture 3 tower speakers (almost $3000 for the pair) Velodyne CT100 10" sub, Harman Kardon AVR65 receiver, Panasonic RP56 DVD player, and other speakers for home theater. Bottom line, the M3s and Technics sounded better than the upstairs system in stereo mode!

The Technics SADX series has been discontinued and I believe the top of the line 1070 can be had at extreme discount. If you could get something like that for about $200 USD or less, I'd grab it. They work well with M3s, I suppose they'd match up well with the M22s as well.

A tube alternative is a pair of Antique Sound Labs Wave 8 monoblocks, $200 USD for the pair ($238 with a cover). They've been well reviewed and I believe they put out 10 or 15 watts per channel.

You may be able to do better by picking up some used equipment. Many audio folks are a bit crazy and constantly upgrade their systems, making some really nice equipment available at good prices.

Good luck. Choose carefully. Enjoy the music.
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