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Grunt, Jakewash, Yep, the piece of paper demo illustrates my thoughts entirely. When people believe the end justifies the means, we get in all sorts of trouble. The concern I have these days is now that the whole AGW thing is coming undone, that Joe sixpack won't believe anything from any scientists for a long time. This is my biggest concern. Maybe he will have a short memory? Here's a link you may find interesting: http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2009/mar/08/climate-change-flooding Quoting the IPCC (which is a political body, not a scientific one, IMHO). I am more than happy to be proven wrong as I am more interested in getting facts than being right or wrong.
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Who wants to be LEADAH of the EXTREME MIDDLE? I think anyone who volanteers should automatically be disqualified. Let's conscript someone instead.
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I seem to recall it isn't the ice already floating in the water they are concerned with, I would hope as scientists they are aware of the effect of volume displacment. IIRC, it is the Antarctic ice cap and the Glaciers not in the water, this is where some scientists say the rise in sea levels will come from.
I don't think I have ever heard anything about a 60M rise in sea levels though, more like 5M, just enough to wipe out most of the coastal regions and islands we know now. Yep. The ice-in-the-glass observation is indeed true for north-pole ice. Arctic ice floats on top of the Arctic ocean. It could all melt and sea levels wouldn't change. But the same doesn't hold true for Greenland and Antarctica. Both of which consist of vast ice sheets on top of land. That ice isn't floating. If all that ice were to melt, global sea levels would rise significantly. No, it wouldn't be Water World but it would certainly suck for the majority of the Earth's population that just so happens to live in coastal areas.
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Peter,
Understood, but the antarctic isn't melting anywhere near like the north pole was/is/whatever.
It's interesting to note that some of the early explorers to the antarctic (early 1900s) recorded seeing land down there which is not visible today (due to ice).
It's also interesting to hear about villages in Greenland being uncovered under the retreating ice.
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I just read through this whole thing assuming that every post by madjak was written by Adrian.
You guys have to use dissimilar avatars.
Because I said so, that's why.
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You better re-read the whole thread again, Mark, now that you know.
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You have to send Mark a pm to get him to do anything, Adrian.
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Hmmm, does that mean he needs a pm with instructions to read his pm's?
Actually, the avatar thing is a secret ploy between me and madjack to confuse the crap out of Mark...it seems to be working so far....
Last edited by Adrian; 01/14/10 11:49 PM.
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I just read through this whole thing assuming that every post by madjak was written by Adrian. WTF?! Thanks for bringing that up Mark, I would have never noticed ... must be the climate change giving me brain dysfunction. Yea, that's what it is.
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Uh oh! another one....OK!....preferences.... How's that? since we are on a global warming thread I've blocked out the sun....can you feel it cooling down again Rick?
Last edited by Adrian; 01/14/10 11:55 PM.
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