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#287237 - 01/17/10 01:04 PM DIY Class D amps
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Anyone tried this or have any real info on it? One hopes they're not ICE amps, but they probably are.

http://classdaudio.com/index.php/class-d-amplifier-kits/home-kits.html

My boss emailed me the link; I think he's thinking about trying it out. Probably means they got reviewed on 6moons or something.
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#287290 - 01/17/10 09:32 PM Re: DIY Class D amps [Re: Ken.C]
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That looks pretty cool.
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#287320 - 01/18/10 03:00 AM Re: DIY Class D amps [Re: Ken.C]
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Doesn't look like they're based on an ICE model. The only part reference I can find on their older ones is: CDA2092X2NR That doesn't show up anywhere but on their own site.

Their newer designs use TI's Digital Amplifier parts. That includes the "600W Class D Power Amplifier, Balanced Input, 2 Ohm". That amp looks really interesting. I might pick up the parts to build one. $235 for the kit, not bad.
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#287375 - 01/18/10 11:10 AM Re: DIY Class D amps [Re: ClubNeon]
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Yeah, I looked at the instructions and decided it was probably beyond me (I'm not particularly good at soldering), but it looked pretty cool. Plus they don't really tell you what to do with the transformer... Bits and bobs would probably take it to $500, but that's still pretty good if it does what it says.
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#287425 - 01/18/10 04:08 PM Re: DIY Class D amps [Re: Ken.C]
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Those are some pretty nice kits.
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#287436 - 01/18/10 04:34 PM Re: DIY Class D amps [Re: jakewash]
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I hope someone tries this, it looks to interesting to pass on.
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#287530 - 01/19/10 09:58 AM Re: DIY Class D amps [Re: Sloped]
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How does someone get Audioholics to review a product? I'd love to see their test results for one of these before I fork over the cash.

While the design is pretty much a TI reference, there could be something wrong in the MOSFET setup which allows DC leakage or ultrasonic filtering (not uncommon with Class D amps).

I don't want to end up with an 600 Watt, 400 kHz radio station operating out of my living room, nor do I want to blow up my speakers with DC or high frequency noise.
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#287535 - 01/19/10 11:40 AM Re: DIY Class D amps [Re: ClubNeon]
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Spent the last 90 minutes reading TI's docs, and comparing their reference design to the pictures on Class D Audio's website. Seems TI has done a very good job designing the chip which is the core of this amp. Leaves very little room for mistakes from the implimenter. The only thing TI stresses is the distance from the output pins to the decoupling caps. TI says this should only be limited by the size of the heat sink. Looking at Class D's picture, that's exactly what they've done, the caps are right next to the sink.

That makes me feel much more comfortable in picking one of these up without someone else testing it first.

The only place Class D's design differs from TI's, is TI uses two separate power supply inputs. One (50V) for the output drive, and the other (12V) to run the chip. Class D takes one, and performs "house keeping" on board to step the voltage down to power the chip. TI's design is intended to be used with TI's class G power supply (variable output for different amplifier demands). Class D Audio's power supply is of a more traditional fixed level output.

I also noticed that Class D's kit includes a transformer in that $235 price. So that's amp board, power supply, and transformer. And from the looks of things, it could actually be assembled with no soldering. It's really just running wires between the parts, and tightening screws to hold them in place. Of course if one wanted nicer RCA or XLR inputs jacks would have to be connected to a couple of those wires.

EDIT: I should have noted that the proximity of the caps to the output pins is what is keeping the electromagnetic interference to a minimum. And safety features in TI's design keeps the output MOSFETs from conducting DC during power up/down.


Edited by ClubNeon (01/19/10 11:47 AM)
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#287559 - 01/19/10 01:33 PM Re: DIY Class D amps [Re: ClubNeon]
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Think it would need further heatsinking or a fan? I see there's a fan pinout on the board.
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#287571 - 01/19/10 01:52 PM Re: DIY Class D amps [Re: Ken.C]
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The specs say, "Two Speed 12V Fan Output (most conditions will not require a fan)". One review says that the fan never turns on. If that's the case, and the fan doesn't normally run, I'll probably put one in the enclosure, just to be on the safe side.

I'm thinking about building it in a 2U rack mount case. I'll use the same phono/XLR connectors that Axiom does for input. Hooking the switch triggered by inserting the phono plug to the single ended/differential jumper. Although I plan on running my first one as mono bridged, I'll include both sets of binding posts, and just parallel them into the single set on the speaker (after setting the PBTL jumpers on the board, of course). But that'll allow me to just lift the lid, reset the jumpers to BTL, and connect up a right channel input and then have a stereo amp.
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