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Re: Denon with external amp
GS951 #291898 02/12/10 05:39 AM
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Thank you guys for all your help. I will talk with EMO tomorrow about this clipping with my M80v2. Good night all.

http://emotivalounge.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=amps&thread=4057&page=2#60582


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GS951 #291924 02/12/10 05:08 PM
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You're not going to get satisfaction from talking to Emotiva about this issue. They - predictably - assert that the M80 is difficult to drive. However, the Emotiva amps seem to be the only ones that have that difficulty. It's not a "pairing" problem between the Denon and the Emotiva. It's not the M80's causing the distortion. That Emotiva amp has a problem with difficult loads. Follow Wid's advice and get a Rotel or one of the brands Ken mentioned. Do a forum search here for Emotiva and read the many, long, detailed threads that detail the agony of people like you that have tried this before.

A pair of Outlaw monoblocks might fit the bill.

Look, I desperately want to like Emotiva products. Their company is run by fine people. I like their style. I like the value proposition. But there is something about the engineering inside the XPA series amps that just doesn't play nice with the impedance presented by certain speakers.

As others have mentioned, if you're not hearing the distortion at similar volumes by simply using the Denon's onboard amps, that should tell you everything you need to know.


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tomtuttle #291926 02/12/10 05:17 PM
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What the guy with beer-breath said.

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Look, I desperately want to like Emotiva products. Their company is run by fine people. I like their style. I like the value proposition.

And I like their pretty blue lights.

Anyone who knows anything knows that blue lights are the coolest! \:\)


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MarkSJohnson #291927 02/12/10 05:19 PM
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I agree wholeheartedly with Tom. I'd love to like Emotivas, but I'm unwilling to give up the speaker sound I love just to get an amp.


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I agree with football head, blue lights are the best.

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While blue lights might look nice, they can be awfully distracting on the rack while trying to watch a movie (if they are in sight). Some equipment with blue lights, if not implemented properly are blinding.


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BlueJays1 #291932 02/12/10 05:41 PM
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I, too, find blue lights generally way too bright. Pretty, but I don't buy equipment to look at the equipment.


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EFalardeau #291933 02/12/10 05:45 PM
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One of the prettiest pieces of equipement I've owned was a Marantz 2252B receiver. It was all brushed aluminum (even the radio dial) and had red and blue lights. Loved that thing. Of course, those blue lights were light bulbs behind blue plastic or something like, so that's a bit different.


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BlueJays1 #291935 02/12/10 05:55 PM
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Blue lights are cool!

I've read that some of the newer Rotel gear has non-dimmable blue lights, which as the good Dr. states can probably be very distracting if the equipment rack is in sight while watching a movie. That is what I really like about having the equipment rack behind the seating area of the room, I really like this guy's setup but the Rotel lights are mighty bright though.




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EFalardeau #291936 02/12/10 05:55 PM
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 Originally Posted By: EFalardeau
I, too, find blue lights generally way too bright. Pretty, but I don't buy equipment to look at the equipment.


I concur.


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