Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Advice from Axiom Owners Is the XLF DSP worth the extra $500

Do you work for ED, lol

I don't know anything about these subs. Does anyone here have any experience with them? How do they compare to axioms and svs? I know I could google it, but I decided to Axiom it instead.

Heh... a few weeks ago, he would have been recommending Hsu.

I have the PB12-NSD and it is pretty freakin good for the price IMO.

My buddy has an EP350 which is great as well, but the SVS does a little better for movies and is A LOT cheaper than the EP500.

EDIT: I should mention my room is 1700 cubic feet. I have had it big time cranked on U-571 scenes and the like and never had an issue.

Isn't the EP500 a bit smaller than the PB13U?

A few years ago, several of us got together at myrison's home and listened to an EP600 and PB13U side-by-side. We all heard the differences, and Jason ended up keeping the EP600.

I was originally going for the ep400 because I wanted something small for the living room because it will probably be out in the open for everyone to see it. (Edit: and the best placement might be rather low, under, or near the W100 center) The ep500 is 5 to 8 inches shorter than the elemental designs pictured here. I'm getting the in/on wall speakers to save space. I still might go with the ep400, at least to test, to see if I would be satisfied with it. I'm not too concerned about top performance in that particular room. I'm going to be redoing a large bedroom later for that.

Here's make take on the money part.

Tiny room, but maybe at somepoint in a larger room, will the 350 or another brand do it, I would image so.

The sub for me is important for music, but this is about movies.

If the EP500 DSP, makes the Sub, "smoother", safer, better sounding in movies ........

Well $500 is a weekend away, couple of days of memory, the $500 extra for the Sub will last for years......

I don't have money to burn, lots of projects and wants, but I would rather make one right purchase and wait for the second, than two "wrong" or cheaper purchases......

But if the DSP is more hype than reality, I've keep the $500!

So that's more to exactly what I'm asking.

Jeff

Just my thoughts, for what it's worth.

I notice that they have a graph you can click on for the EP400, EP500, EP600, but none for the lesser models. That right there tells me that the frequency response on the EP125, thru EP350 are not as even as the others.

The loudness for 350 vs 500 are almost the same in decibles, but if you are going to play it loud, or in a bigger room, then the 500 would be the better choice because it has DSP.

So, I would say, if you want a more accurate and cleaner sound, go with the 500. If not, and you want to save money, go with the 350, because it will sound good also. Probably the only way you would even notice the difference is if you got used to the sound of the 500 first.

Just to confuse everyone even more, if you really want to spend more money...

Don't buy an EP500, buy two EP350's, or PB12 NSD's, or eD's, or whatever else. Same output as a 500, more headroom and smoother response.

Could have, even the Hsu is a better deal than the Axiom subs. IMO they (Axiom) are over priced for what is offered. I still think the Hsu is a very good sub and I could easily recommend them to anyone looking for a good bang for the buck sub.

If you like your Axiom, that's cool.



You recommend Axiom, do you work for them