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Re: IOnline shopping: who are you really buy from
fredk #294229 02/27/10 08:23 PM
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 Originally Posted By: richeydog

Are you talking about the Rocket 750's? The were the flagship speaker several years ago???


Yes I’m pretty sure it was the 750 I listened to, and it was about 3 years ago. I had already passed my demo period on my first Axiom order and decided to keep them but had a morbid curiosity about the Rockets and wanted to be able to make “semi” informed comments when a fanboy would pop into an Axiom thread at AVS or Audioholics claiming how crappy the Axiom sounded compared to AV123. Though it was only a few of them who did this it was quite common back then.

Turned out to be a pointless exercise in the end as I tired of trying to help people pick speakers since it became obvious that most people asking which speakers to buy either already knew what they wanted and were looking for validation or just wanted someone to tell them what sounded “best.”

As I’ve mentioned before I did like there sound and they did look impressive. However, I found early on I prefer the “brighter” sound of speakers like B&W, Focal and well Axiom. I don’t even like the roll-off of the standard Audyssey EQ curve.

EDIT: Not sure if those are the ones Steriophile measured or if it was a newer model.

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Re: IOnline shopping: who are you really buy from
grunt #294233 02/27/10 08:50 PM
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Grunt, is this the review you are referring to?

http://www.ultimateavmag.com/speakersystems/305rocket/index4.html


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Re: IOnline shopping: who are you really buy from
BlueJays1 #294235 02/27/10 08:59 PM
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Yow. That does explain why I didn't like the Bigfoot I heard very much at all. The mains were much better.


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Re: IOnline shopping: who are you really buy from
BlueJays1 #294236 02/27/10 09:00 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Dr.House
Grunt, is this the review you are referring to?

http://www.ultimateavmag.com/speakersystems/305rocket/index4.html

That may be what he is referring to. If not, it gives a pretty accurate result of the 750's when fed a signal.

The newer rocket's (850's, 450's, RSC200 aka bigfoot)designed/redesigned by Danny Richie, are much better in that regard. Their measurements are way flatter than the 750's.

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Re: IOnline shopping: who are you really buy from
richeydog #294237 02/27/10 09:03 PM
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Is there any third party measurements for the Rockets you refer to?


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Re: IOnline shopping: who are you really buy from
Ken.C #294238 02/27/10 09:04 PM
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 Originally Posted By: kcarlile
Yow. That does explain why I didn't like the Bigfoot I heard very much at all. The mains were much better.

I didn't like bigfoot either when I bought it in 2006. It seemed a bit edgy and harsh on certain material. As i mentioned above, the crossover was redesigned by Danny and I sounds loads better. I personally attest to that since I installed the new version a few years ago.


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Re: IOnline shopping: who are you really buy from
Wid #294239 02/27/10 09:04 PM
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No that’s not the article but it does bring up another issue with AV123 speakers I wasn’t thinking about which was the crossovers. Not sure as the reviewer above commented if it wasn’t more likely QC issues (probably from the crossover manufacture) than a design issue. Which also dovetails with the other electronics QC issues that have plagued AV123s electronics offerings even before the MFW-15 amp problems. It’s my understanding that the Ninja got his business going making after market crossovers for AV123 speakers because of the often inconsistent quality crossovers in them.

The article I read was talked about was posted on Steriophile specifically.


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Re: IOnline shopping: who are you really buy from
Wid #294241 02/27/10 09:05 PM
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 Originally Posted By: wid

Is there any third party measurements for the Rockets you refer to?

Sorry Rick I don't have any. If you can find some I would like to see them. \:\)


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Re: IOnline shopping: who are you really buy from
grunt #294242 02/27/10 09:08 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Richeydog

I didn't like bigfoot either when I bought it in 2006. It seemed a bit edgy and harsh on certain material. As i mentioned above, the crossover was redesigned by Danny and I sounds loads better. I personally attest to that since I installed the new version a few years ago.


That supports what I was reading in various forums as the crossover issues seemed to go away after the redesign.


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Re: IOnline shopping: who are you really buy from
grunt #294243 02/27/10 09:10 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Richeydog

I didn't like bigfoot either when I bought it in 2006. It seemed a bit edgy and harsh on certain material. As i mentioned above, the crossover was redesigned by Danny and I sounds loads better. I personally attest to that since I installed the new version a few years ago.


That’s funny I always want to hear the Bigfoot since it was so well regarded by many. The guy who’s Rockets I demoed didn’t have a Bigfoot.


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