Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Advice from Axiom Owners Sub Upgrade

There are many good subs in the $500-750 price range Jasper, if you want to stick with Axiom, you'd find most guys recommending the EP350 over the 175 for it's greater impact and range. If you go through the factory outlet you can bring the cost down 10% btw. Many of us here, do in fact, use non Axiom subs as there are a lot of good, competitively priced subs out there.

If your really mainly focusing on music though(outside of very low fq church organ type), the EP175 may be fine, but I've never heard one so maybe someone who has can provide some details on it.

Also, welcome!!

I think the EP175 would be fine for music (unless you are really into pipe organ music), but it just doesn't reach down low enough or with any authority for movies. I Auditioned the ep175, 350 and 400 at Axiom in their 20 x 12 x 8' room and the ep175 just didn't have any rumble. The EP350 did a very good job on both music and movies.

I suspect that the EP350 would be enough sub for the vast majority of people out there. I get down to ~21Hz in my room and that is good enough to really add to the movie experience.

Its integration with my mains for music is flawless. Though I have not had a chance to listen to subs like the SVS PB10, my understanding is that they are a good budget sub for movies, but give less than ideal performance for music. It all depends what you want.

I would have Randy but it was not on his list.

I would very much prefer an Axiom product but, sadly, I do agree the EP175 won't have enough punch for my room size, 24' X 13' X 8'. I just got off the phone with my brother (whom I turned into an Axiomite btw) and we agreed it's between two. The Outlaw LFM-1 and the ED A2-300. I'm leaning toward the Outlaw.

http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/equipment/0505/outlawaudiolfm1.htm

I like to think outside the box.

The LFM-1 is no longer available but Outlaw has a real nice price on the LFM-1 Plus.

The eD A2-300 is on a pretty serious back order right now. For that reason alone I wouldn't recommend it.

Yes, you are correct it's the LFM-1 Plus. I just placed the order, thanks to all and your recommendations/input. Now where is that FedEx guy? Price is exactly where I wanted to be with free shipping. Always ask for free shipping. FYI - I did call our local Paradigm dealer and he wants $800 for the DSP3200...there's that pesky dealer mark up again. Excellent reviews on the Outlaw so I'm hoping for good LFE for years to come. Got the WAF approval this moring, only took me 5 hours to place the order.

$800 for the DSP3200? Ouch!! I paid $700 CD for the DSP3400 and was quoted around $550 for the 3200 last year. Anyway, congrats on the Outlaw, looks like a good sub for the $$.

He wanted $1000 for DSP3400... ouch is right. $467 for the Outlaw delivered.

Dang!! just a couple of weeks ago, I saw a clearance on 3400's online in the US for $550 but I think someone bought up all their stock because all the Paradigm equip't went all at once, and there was a lot of it(liquidation) including their Signature and Studio line.