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#307132 - 05/18/10 06:52 PM Re: The 3D Gamble.... [Re: Ken.C]
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 Originally Posted By: kcarlile
ClubNeon's machine is simply disgusting.

What? I removed the dust when I added the second 16 GB of RAM. Thought I didn't have to open the case (or even power down the machine) when I hot swapped in two 2TB SAS drives.

Still don't have my dual, 6-core CPUs though. \:\( But that'll be another chance to clean it. Trying to keep it from being disgusting.
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#307135 - 05/18/10 07:01 PM Re: The 3D Gamble.... [Re: ClubNeon]
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#307137 - 05/18/10 07:04 PM Re: The 3D Gamble.... [Re: Ken.C]
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Only buying what I need, no sense in chasing state of the art.
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#307140 - 05/18/10 07:15 PM Re: The 3D Gamble.... [Re: snazzed]
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It's interesting computers came up as a comparison. I was thinking to myself that it was starting to resemble Japan's Sportbike market of the last 15 years until the economy tanked.

Basically, Japan's 'Big 4' (Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki & Yamaha) came up with a 2 year lifespan for Sportbike models to live. Every two years they would put out a brand new 600 cc and 1000 cc bikes to replace the last models. So for enthusiasts, it became practically impossible to keep up with the 'latest and greatest' out on the street. It wasn't just horsepower increases, they were getting major trickle down technologies from MotoGP every other year. fuel injection, ram-air, radial brakes, fly-by-wire throttle, electronic ignition, traction control... it was getting truely insane! So if your bike was 3 years old you could bet, unless you were keeping up via the aftermarket, that your bike had fallen to the back of the pack. But finally, as a direct result of the world economy, Japan has softened their approach, tightened up on R&D, and started extending the live-span of their bike models.

I'd love to see TV manufacturer's learn the same leason. Stop throwing everything at us so fast, take your time, refine your product, and bring it out when it's a more mature technology, not in it's infancy. I think some good idea's sunk in the market because they either came out too early, and people got tired of waiting for it to evolve, or just had too many choices at their disposal. Who else here remembers when 'Virtual Reality' technology first came out... didn't you think by now we would all be playing every video game available in the virtual world? I know I did, I thouht forsure that was going to be the wave of the future! But it was short lived, I believe in part because they unleashed it before it was affordable. I remember seeing a 'Virtual Reality' home gaming system that cost something like $50,000 bucks! I'm not real sure whey they didn't sell like hot cakes??? [rolls eyes]

Had they been patient with the technology and brought it to market when people could afford it, I think it would have done a whole lot better. But nobody wants to wait, they want to push everything out the door as soon as they can. That's why I think 3D with glasses is destined to fail. And it's failure just might take 3D without glasses down with it as an innocent bystander. Had they waited until they had a TV that could display 3D without glasses, without side-to-side issues and all the rest of it, then I think 3D could have been THE next big leap.
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#307142 - 05/18/10 07:19 PM Re: The 3D Gamble.... [Re: Micah]
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Actually I hope that they (and most consumers) don't learn that lesson. That way, in 10 years when I need a new TV, the Joneses and the TV industry will have spent those 10 years working themselves into a lather to get me a much better TV really, really cheap.
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#307163 - 05/18/10 10:57 PM Re: The 3D Gamble.... [Re: snazzed]
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I agree with most of the comments here. I really don't want to hassle with 3D and special glasses, especially since I wear prescription glasses.

I'm going to take this opportunity to hopefully find a killer price on a old fashioned 2D TV maybe sometime in January or so.
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#307199 - 05/19/10 11:54 AM Re: The 3D Gamble.... [Re: terzaghi]
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Check this link for Johnny Lee's hacks on the Wii. This has some cool 3d gamimg possibilities, sadly, he came up with this a year or so after the Wii was initially released but so far no one has done much with it.


Edited by jakewash (05/19/10 12:00 PM)
Edit Reason: changed link
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#307216 - 05/19/10 01:18 PM Re: The 3D Gamble.... [Re: Micah]
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 Originally Posted By: Micah

Had they been patient with the technology and brought it to market when people could afford it, I think it would have done a whole lot better. But nobody wants to wait, they want to push everything out the door as soon as they can.


They have no reason to be patient when they can charge high prices and the early adopters will pay those prices for new tech. The early adopters fund future R&D and help bring down prices for the rest of us. So thanks to all of the early adopters here at the Axiom forums! \:\)

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#307224 - 05/19/10 01:29 PM Re: The 3D Gamble.... [Re: Zarak]
Micah Offline
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Maybe, but that doesn't excuse a company from making better forcasts. Even with early adoptors money funding R&D, if they don't bring the prices down to affordable levels in a reasonable amount of time the general public will lose interest and then.... all is lost.
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#307365 - 05/20/10 12:05 AM Re: The 3D Gamble.... [Re: Micah]
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I'm very enthusiastic about 3D. So enthusiastic that I bought a PS3 when I learned that it would be capable of playing 3D blu-rays, and I just bought a Pioneer vsx-1020 for its ability to switch HDMI 1.4a signals (including 3D BD and 3D TV). But I'm not quite enthusiastic enough to go ahead and buy a 3D TV just yet. Maybe next Spring.

I haven't seen any of the new Sharp 4 color displays, but I find their product literature pretty persuasive. One of the advantages they claim is extra brightness, in part because our eyes are more sensitive to green-yellow than to R, G, or B, and since shutter glasses cut out more than half the light, brightness is very important to glasses-based 3D displays.

I'll also be very interested to see what Vizio comes up with this Summer -- they've made some interesting claims.

Since I'm a rather frugal person, my first 3D display might turn out to be one of the (essentially obsolete) DLP displays. At any rate, for me, the question is not about "if", but (as people say about the next killer asteroid) "when".
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