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Re: two way multiple sub system
jakewash #307574 05/21/10 09:44 PM
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I don't think that product even exists under the name Sasquatch. From what I understand he has no business relationships with AV123 nor TCA any longer. Mark Seaton has never developed a product for TCA that has been brought to market. He has developed the MFW-15 for AV123 and some other designs that were in progress that he has dropped from ever making it to market for AV123.


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Re: two way multiple sub system
BlueJays1 #307587 05/21/10 10:47 PM
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Whatever, the guy knows his stuff.

As wacked as threads get on AVS at times, some very knowledgeable people post there. Tom Danley did a lot of posting around tapped horn sub design. The guy behind TC Sounds also posts there at times as does Earl Geddes.


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Re: two way multiple sub system
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He might not have any relationship any longer (or ever from reading the rest of the thread)with TCA, but he was going to and his name was mentioned way back in the early days at TCA.

I wonder if the amp fiasco of the MFW forced him to cool his relationship with some in the business, not that the amp was his fault, but just the fact his name was so highly touted with that subs development and his name is his brand.


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Re: two way multiple sub system
jakewash #307618 05/22/10 02:05 AM
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 Originally Posted By: jakewash
I wonder if the amp fiasco of the MFW forced him to cool his relationship with some in the business, not that the amp was his fault, but just the fact his name was so highly touted with that subs development and his name is his brand.


Remember, the owner and president of AV123 was indicted by grand jury and other matters that would make one want to cool business relationships.


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BlueJays1 #307619 05/22/10 02:09 AM
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I do remember and I would pull out from associating with that company as well, actually I did. I have stopped subscribing to email notifications from them.


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Re: two way multiple sub system
jakewash #307633 05/22/10 03:45 AM
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 Originally Posted By: Dr. House

Mark Seaton has cut ties with AV123 as well as TCA from what I understand. He doesn't develop any products for AV123 anymore and never developed anything for TCA. He has his own company of course which is pushing out product.


Regardless of his present affiliations he was associated with them and with whom one associates with tell more about a person than anything else. That’s why you focus on a persons associations when doing background investigations. Caveat emptor!


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Re: two way multiple sub system
grunt #307635 05/22/10 03:55 AM
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 Originally Posted By: grunt
 Originally Posted By: Dr. House

Mark Seaton has cut ties with AV123 as well as TCA from what I understand. He doesn't develop any products for AV123 anymore and never developed anything for TCA. He has his own company of course which is pushing out product.


Regardless of his present affiliations he was associated with them and with whom one associates with tell more about a person than anything else. That’s why you focus on a persons associations when doing background investigations. Caveat emptor!


Definitely. Can't argue with you there.


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Re: two way multiple sub system
grunt #307644 05/22/10 04:18 AM
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 Originally Posted By: grunt
Regardless of his present affiliations he was associated with them and with whom one associates with tell more about a person than anything else. That’s why you focus on a persons associations when doing background investigations. Caveat emptor!

Sort of. Would you say everyone who ever chose to be associated with or do business with GM is a looser because GM lost its way and went bust? Not likely.

We all pick loosers sometimes. A number of people got sucked in by the owner of AV123 and it cost them all money. Its a small industry and Mr. Seaton is well regarded by those in it, at least the ones I know of.

Anyway, this is going way off topic. You can choose to ignore what Mr. Seaton writes, or not.


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Re: two way multiple sub system
fredk #307686 05/22/10 05:09 AM
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 Originally Posted By: fredk

Sort of. Would you say everyone who ever chose to be associated with or do business with GM is a looser because


GM is a large corporation AV123 is a small company that was/is fronted by one man. Knowing the character of a group and an individual are very different things. So the comparison is invalid.

 Originally Posted By: fredk

We all pick loosers sometimes. A number of people got sucked in by the owner of AV123 and it cost them all money. Its a small industry and Mr. Seaton is well regarded by those in it, at least the ones I know of.


The issue about AV123 and it’s associates (Seaton, Craigsub, Ninja, Emo et. al.) for me isn’t that “we all pick loosers” but rather why people pick their associations. AV123 stank to high heaven for years. That people were either to naïve or willing for reasons of expedience to overlook it’s nature are salient if choosing to enter a business relationship with them. Those in the former category are IMO to naïve to run their own business effectively. Those in that latter are not to be trusted to do business with in the long run.

95% of all people can’t hide deceit which is why most professional poker players wear sunglass, hats etc. . . . Almost all people from an early age can pick up on these “tells.” Why people either don’t see them or choose to ignore them is very informative about a person in the situation in question. (note: I’m a trained interrogator, and very good at it). I really know about these things, which is why I give no quarter to deceitful people or those who associate with them.

 Originally Posted By: fredk

Anyway, this is going way off topic. You can choose to ignore what Mr. Seaton writes, or not.


None of the above invalidates Seaton’s knowledge or experience. To ignore him or others having specialized knowledge or experience simply because they have associated with AV123 is silly it simply means as I said above, “Caveat Emptor.”


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