Re: Any difference between Tis and V2s
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Got me. My guess is titanium, for the tweeter material, but I really don't know.
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Rad, Happy Birthday! Yes, my understanding is that the crossover change(to the Ti, "Titanium" model)that Alan has mentioned took place before you got yours.
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Happy birthday Rad!
IIRC, the very original Ti's only lasted a short time, a year or so and the version change came about several years later as enough of the speaker lineup had under gone changes, minimal ones, but enough that Ian felt it appropriate to start the v2 designation.
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Hey thanks for the birthday greets :)and next month going to try this retirement thing see what its all about.
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Hi all,
Yes, the original "ti" was indeed short for titanium, and that earlier tweeter was in fact a titanium/aluminum composite dome. Titanium is quite brittle and the aluminum was added for strength.
The latest tweeter in the M22s is pure titanium, which is lighter than the titanium/aluminum composite, and when I A/B'd the latest version with my 2002 M22 ti's, the differences are subtle, as Jay pointed out, but audible. The latest version seems smoother on brasses, vocals, sax and horns, with greater spaciousness and a deeper soundfield than the already excellaent soundstage of the "old" ti's.
It's only audible on really excellent recordings--big orchestral/choral works reveal the soundstage differences best. On a lot of other music, the two models are very close, with the added smoothness noted above.
In terms of on-going changes to the M22s and other models, I'd call them "subtle refinements", the only exception being the old M80ti, whose performance was much smoother after modifications to the crossover added as an ongoing production change in the summer/fall of 2003. It was still called a "ti" until 2005 when the "v2" designation was applied, along with numerous small mechanical changes to the binding posts.
Regards, Alan
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This question, along with Bi-wiring/amping, comes up often enough that it should be made a sticky topic.
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I was just thinking the same thing
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I have that option in the drop-down menu for "Manage Topics". But what happens when you make the topic "sticky"?
Alan
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Re: Any difference between Tis and V2s
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It sticks at the top of the forum. The only current examples are Peter's google search thread, which doesn't work any more, and the Auditioning Axioms in your Area thread.
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Say, we should have a 'sticky thread day', you know, where everyone gets that option for a day. Could be fun.
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