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#309880 - 06/09/10 02:39 AM PS3 and frequencies
gianquittia Offline
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Hi,
I have a ps3 and 7.1 system. When I set the ps3 frequencies, I can set different boxes from 44 to 192 (I think those are the numbers). After I set them it kind of gives a warning saying freqencies the A/V receiver/speakers can't handle could cause damage to the speaker. I was just wondering if I should be able to check all of the frequency boxes on the ps3 settings. Thanks!
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#309903 - 06/09/10 11:27 AM Re: PS3 and frequencies [Re: gianquittia]
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How is your PS3 connected to your receiver? If it is by HDMI the proper boxes should be checked automatically. If it is by optical cable, you'll have to do it yourself. Many non-HDMI receivers don't support anything higher than 96 kHz, so you may want to leave the 192s unchecked. The majority of the HDMI receivers do support 192 on input (many of those downsample it to 96 after receiving it though). But as I said, HDMI should auto-detect what is supported, and you should leave it there.
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#309907 - 06/09/10 11:37 AM Re: PS3 and frequencies [Re: ClubNeon]
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Okay, thanks. It's hooked up by hdmi cable. So I will leave all of the boxes checked.
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#310709 - 06/18/10 01:57 PM Re: PS3 and frequencies [Re: gianquittia]
Vanorge Offline
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something for you to check out. i also have the ps3 and have run with both frequencies 48khz and 176.4khz and have never had a problem. it's hooked up to an onkyo tx sr 707 and the m60's. I run music in pure audio and so it's played in 2.0.

my findings is that i don't like the way it sounded. it could be because i don't have an amp. but with some cd's the highs would sound disstorted. which i didn't like. i have read that the axioms are known to show the weaknesses of bad recordings.

so yesterday i was running and thinking about sound and stuff...im in the process of buying an amp. well anyways i started thinking and wondering what music will sound with my xbox, i never tried it!!!! i put a cd in not sacd or dvda..just a cd, and to my surprice its output was 5.1!!!!! in direct setting on the reciever. i have the first generation xbox360. so it's hooked up via opti..when i press display on my reciever it comes up as INPUT:opti dolby dig 48KHZ 5.1 OUTPUT: direct or dolby (whichever i choose DD has a bit more bass)and it sounds sooooooo much better.

so anyways try it out if you have a xbox 360 laying around. i'll be getting an oppo soon. and i'll compare the sound to that. my guess is with an amp and oppo it should be the best combination. but for now to my surprise music on the 360 plays wayyyyy better than my PS3..i have the slim by the way.

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#310721 - 06/18/10 02:34 PM Re: PS3 and frequencies [Re: Vanorge]
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There's no way that upsampling 44.1 kHz to 48 kHz which is a 1.088435374 time multiplication (not a nice even factor), and then using lossy Dolby Digial encoding will make a CD sound better.

Try this with the PS3. Set the CD output to the 44.1/88.2/176.4 mode, and the Bitmapping to Type 3 (or C, or what ever the last one is). On your receiver pick Dolby Prologic II(x if you have it). That'll be a lossless processing, with an even factor upsample.
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#310725 - 06/18/10 02:54 PM Re: PS3 and frequencies [Re: ClubNeon]
Vanorge Offline
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tx for the advice .. i'll try it rigt now... i hadn't tried the bitmapping

tried it and and nope still getting distortion in the highs with the ps3 and much smoother on the 360 be it direct , PLII or whatever .maybe it's the recording not sure. the music is still sounding better on the 360. listening to alison krause live at union station and pink floyds echoes cd1

thanks tho heres my gear maybe it sounds the way it does because of my set up.
http://www.blu-ray.com/community/gallery.php?member=Vanorge


Edited by Vanorge (06/18/10 03:02 PM)

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#310729 - 06/18/10 03:25 PM Re: PS3 and frequencies [Re: ClubNeon]
Vanorge Offline
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okay this is also really weird.. the output is exactly like i said on the 360 its output supposedly is opt1 dolby D 48khz 5.1.. checking around the speakers . only the front two are on . i have it on direct on the reciever.

but yea it's still sounding better on the 360. im not stating that for sure one is better than another. but if you have a 360 try it out. for me it turned out this way.

personally i can't wait for my amp and oppo player.

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#310740 - 06/18/10 03:47 PM Re: PS3 and frequencies [Re: Vanorge]
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Oh, also check when the PS3 is playing a CD, for the pop-up setting, and the volume control there. Make sure it is at 0, not + or - anything.

The 360 is sending a lossy DD stream with as 5.1 with 3 channels of silence. Which is really annoying because you can't apply Prologic to it because the receiver thinks there is already surround information present. I guess you could apply IIx, but that'll just take the silence of the surround channels and steer it to the rears so they'll be silent too.
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#310745 - 06/18/10 04:02 PM Re: PS3 and frequencies [Re: ClubNeon]
Vanorge Offline
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aye aye aye... im not even the OP. but im liking the advice. i think for music im just going to have to wait. HT im straight. amp a player and pure audio is my goal. tx dude. and i hopw the OP has fun experimenting.

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#310752 - 06/18/10 04:19 PM Re: PS3 and frequencies [Re: Vanorge]
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My PS3 sounds the same as my $1000 Pioneer Elite DVD player (except for fan noise). As long as the bits are reaching the receiver correctly, all transports sound the same. So I know the PS3 can correctly handle CD audio.

The original Xbox on the other hand always sounded...odd. It used 44.1 to 48 kHz up sampling, that's probably the source of the problem.
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