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#310013 - 06/10/10 12:58 AM Finally upgraded my bass.
DreamTheater Offline
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Registered: 06/03/10
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Loc: East Haven, CT
Well just about everything in my system has changed over the years except my $299 Infinity from Circuit City about 8 years ago. Honestly, in the corner of my room, its done a great job and more than I would expect for the price range. But the time has come for bigger, better bass. After considering SVS, AV123, HSU, Elemental Designs, of course Axiom...I decided on the MWF-15. A beast, that suprisngly is only $599.99. I should have it by next week, I'll post pics and a first thought. Anyone on here ever have any experience with this model?
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#310020 - 06/10/10 02:29 AM Re: Finally upgraded my bass. [Re: DreamTheater]
jakewash Offline
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Registered: 12/26/03
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Uh-Oh............


You do know the owner of that company is in court realting to Fraud charges and the MFW-15 has had Amp trouble. I have seen reports the amp has been updated but I believe the new amp is also having trouble, anyone verify this?
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#310021 - 06/10/10 02:50 AM Re: Finally upgraded my bass. [Re: jakewash]
richeydog Offline
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Registered: 05/24/04
Posts: 1201
Loc: Fresno, CA
Is there any chance you can cancel your order before it ships? lol

Sorry but Jay is right. Mark Schifter, the owner, was indicted for charity fraud. He allegedly stole $150,000+ from his own forum/customers.

AV123 has had problems with their subwoofer amps for a long time. They just can't seem to get it right.

Here is a thread talking about the new amp for the MFW-15... NEW MFW-15 Amps.


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#310022 - 06/10/10 03:24 AM Re: Finally upgraded my bass. [Re: DreamTheater]
JohnK Offline
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Erik, the stench emanating from AV123 would cause me to avoid dealing with them. The unit you have on order runs about $700 with shipping; I'd be inclined to consider instead a sub such as the Hsu VTF-2 Mk3 on sale for about $130 less, delivered.
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#310023 - 06/10/10 06:06 AM Re: Finally upgraded my bass. [Re: DreamTheater]
fredk Offline
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Registered: 12/06/07
Posts: 7786
Loc: Canada
Oh man! Its exciting when you make a decision like this to seriously upgrade some of your equipment. The last thing you hope for is people raining on your parade.

Unfortunately, I have to agree with the others that have posted here.

The MFW 15, when it works, is a beast. The base design is good. It does, however fail in manufacturing/execution. There have been issues with:

- the amp. Sub-par component parts. A new amp was sourced, but that one too has higher than normal failure rates.

- the veneer. There have been serious veneer cracking/peeling issues with various AV123 products including the MFW 15.

- screws pulling out of MDF. I do not know the background on this one, but quite a few people have experienced issues with loose, missing and pulled screws. This could be a material or manufacturing issue.

- non delivery of product. This has taken place mostly with pre-orders on 'new' product. Some of these products never came to be, some a trickling out in VERY low volumes. There are people who paid 5 years ago for non product and have received neither product nor a refund.

The owner of the company has been charged with fraud as others have pointed out. There have been rumblings of other financial improprieties as well.

There are SO many good audio companies out there that there are a number of equaly cost effective quality alternatives.
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#310027 - 06/10/10 09:30 AM Re: Finally upgraded my bass. [Re: fredk]
BlueJays1 Offline
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Registered: 09/19/08
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Along with everything else that was said you should question the financial viability of this company and their ability to remain solvent. Which should then also make you question if they will be around in 3 years to honour the 3 year warranty in case something goes wrong. These subwoofers have a history of bad/blown drivers, a high defective rate of amps that pop and eventually stop working (a few have smoked), veener problems (fissures and cracking), loose screws due to incompetent assembly which cause the driver to "flap", and humming problems - both groundloop and those of which are fixed by taking out the amp and re-routing the wires away from the transformer.

My opinion is to cancel your order before they charge your CC and order a sub from a reputable company like ED, HSU, SVS.
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#310032 - 06/10/10 11:02 AM Re: Finally upgraded my bass. [Re: BlueJays1]
DreamTheater Offline
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Registered: 06/03/10
Posts: 92
Loc: East Haven, CT
Oh man what a bummer, I honestly didn't find any of this bad information on the web. I already sent in the email to cancel, I was going by word of reviews I had online, and many bass gurus liked it for the money. Im glad I got a heads up from you guys. HSU and SVS were my runners up, and what about Elemental Designs, do you know anything of that company because they are said to make a powerful sub for the sub $800 range as well.
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#310034 - 06/10/10 11:07 AM Re: Finally upgraded my bass. [Re: DreamTheater]
DreamTheater Offline
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Registered: 06/03/10
Posts: 92
Loc: East Haven, CT
The eD A5-350 was the sub in question, not a boatload of reviews out there for it, but what I do here is good.
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#310036 - 06/10/10 11:24 AM Re: Finally upgraded my bass. [Re: DreamTheater]
BlueJays1 Offline
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Registered: 09/19/08
Posts: 4116
Loc: Porch,enjoying Bombay Sapphire
I don't think you can go wrong with any of the subs from HSU, SVS and ED. Good move on cancelling your order. I am shocked in your recent web searches on the MFW-15 and av123 you did not come across any reports about the presidents indictment nor quality issues pertaining to the MFW-15.
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#310038 - 06/10/10 11:46 AM Re: Finally upgraded my bass. [Re: BlueJays1]
tomtuttle Offline
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Registered: 06/20/03
Posts: 8488
Loc: Tacoma
I agree with our friends.

I've never heard a bad thing about the Hsu or eD products. I own an SVS PB12-ISD and it has been great.

For your price range, the eD A5-350 is $715 including shipping for a 15" driver, 500W, 108lb big box of bassy bliss.

The subs from Outlaw were designed in concert with Dr. Hsu, and their LFM 1 EX seems like a good value.

Some people are probably already tired of hearing it from me, but I was pretty disappointed that the new sealed line from SVS is manufactured in Taiwan.
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