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Re: VP180
#310713 06/18/10 06:15 PM
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putting myself in your shoes it would urk me aswell. that would be really something if you could upgrade your drivers someway.

cause really when you show off your speakers whats the first thing you do. you take the grills off!!! lol. they're going to point at your center and be like " what kind of speaker is that?" lol

not laughing at you, just think it's funny :0)

Re: VP180
#310714 06/18/10 06:19 PM
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Perhaps, initially, Axiom will offer the choice of drivers/caps. As others have said, I would prefer to have the centre speakers look the same as my mains but let's see what Axiom's response is first.

BTW, someone who has the new centre needs to post their impressions soon....I can tell Steve is getting close to the edge.... ;\)


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Adrian #310715 06/18/10 06:24 PM
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I'm waiting for orange drivers to match my walls.

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Adrian #310716 06/18/10 06:25 PM
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Close? CLOSE?!!?? I've tried very hard to be quiet for almost 2 months now so as not to "rub it in", just giving my impresions of the sonic response when asked...

Now people have them, and no reviews? UGH!

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Re: VP180
CatBrat #310717 06/18/10 06:27 PM
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Orange? you never know...there's yellow(kevlar) and copper coloured drivers on the market.


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Re: VP180
Adrian #310718 06/18/10 06:27 PM
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Copper would be good.

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CatBrat #310719 06/18/10 06:29 PM
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 Originally Posted By: CatBrat
I'm waiting for orange drivers to match my walls.


LOL... what about the cabinets?

Re: VP180
pmbuko #310720 06/18/10 06:34 PM
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 Originally Posted By: pmbuko
 Originally Posted By: Dr.House
Exactly! It only acts to hurt current loyal owners if matching the equipment is important to them and they want to upgrade

I think Axiom made this change in response to feedback -- much of which probably came from the customer survey they conducted last year, from existing customers. Matching is a valid concern, though, and I have a feeling Axiom will be responsive to this and allow a choice of driver styles to those wishing to match existing speakers.

 Originally Posted By: Dr.House
it also adds a level of misinformation as well as confusion to any new customers that are researching their products online which is their main form of marketing.

Here I completely disagree with you. How can Axiom changing a product's appearance be construed as misinformation? They are not in direct control of review sites. If a company is overly concerned about having their current line-up match existing information about their older products, then they'd never change a thing and would stagnate.

The wonderful thing about selling speakers online is that customers must come to your website to buy them (unless they're buying used from a 3d party). I'm sure Axiom will update its product pictures to reflect the new driver style once the other lines are updated to v3. (Notice that the VP180 does not yet have its own product page.) I'm also sure various audio sites will take note of the apparently controversial change.


Well of course they are not in control except for what they send out for review and their online advertisements. However, a small noticeable change such as this will conflict with a decade of internet marketing and when one does research the first hits bring up all older reviews. Its noticeable and it changes the look of the speaker and if there is no improvement on sound quality I can't rationalize the change since "looks" are ultimately subjective. A new consumer looking for speakers not familiar with Axiom how will they interpret pictures that conflict from their own research and that which is present on their website.

If these changes indeed happen and if they are in place, I personally think any advertisements they currently use like that beautiful picture of the dual EP500's, M80's and VP150 construe as false advertising.


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Re: VP180
BlueJays1 #310722 06/18/10 06:37 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Dr.House
If these changes indeed happen and if they are in place, I personally think any advertisements they currently use like that beautiful picture of the dual EP500's, M80's and VP150 construe as false advertising.

This is so far out in left field that I honestly don't know if you're being serious.

Re: VP180
pmbuko #310723 06/18/10 06:44 PM
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If those changes are made to all the models like the VP150, M80 etc..., then yes.


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